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[RefCT]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Their provided scorer was also deaf so someone taught me the signs for 'white' and 'black' which I used when reporting fouls and timeouts.

I've seen more experienced officials in my area point to the bench of the offending player while stating the color when reporting. They say it helps when it is really noisy. I've started doing that in gyms when I can barely hear myself think.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I've seen more experienced officials in my area point to the bench of the offending player while stating the color when reporting. They say it helps when it is really noisy. I've started doing that in gyms when I can barely hear myself think.

I think that's a great idea -- but in some areas you will get downgraded for doing so -- so you might want to check with others before doing so.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I've seen more experienced officials in my area point to the bench of the offending player while stating the color when reporting. They say it helps when it is really noisy. I've started doing that in gyms when I can barely hear myself think.

I do that too. I'm told it's not a proper mechanic. But, guess what? It's effective. I do it anyway.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by RefCT

I've seen more experienced officials in my area point to the bench of the offending player while stating the color when reporting. They say it helps when it is really noisy. I've started doing that in gyms when I can barely hear myself think.

The "Accusatory Point."
Our state prohibited it several years ago. Problem is, few officials, and even fewer trainers, actually got the memo. Is still found, albeit rarely, in our association.
I don't like it for another reason than the one they gave when asking us not to do it any more: point to the scorer's right and the scorer tabulates a foul on that side of his/her book; problem is the team that fouled is on the other side of the book.
Most of the time gym volume inhibits communication between officials and table when officials try to say too much. Ain't difficult for any table personnel to hear the report of a color. "Red." "White." The color, the only word actually necessary to verbalize to the table in any gym, loud or not, seems quite easy to communicate.
We really need the Eagle's opinion of this.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Freddy

The "Accusatory Point."
Our state prohibited it several years ago. Problem is, few officials, and even fewer trainers, actually got the memo. Is still found, albeit rarely, in our association.

I didn't know this, either. At camp, I was told not to use the optional bird-dog when I called a foul on two players going for the ball at mid-court. But, I realized that a good preliminary signal/call (eg: "24 white with a push") is just as effective, so I had no problem with that feedback. I didn't realize the point was a no-no, though. I'll be eliminating that starting with tomorrow's games.

Originally Posted by Freddy

Most of the time gym volume inhibits communication between officials and table when officials try to say too much. Ain't difficult for any table personnel to hear the report of a color. "Red." "White." The color, the only word actually necessary to verbalize to the table in any gym, loud or not, seems quite easy to communicate.

When I was scorer in a gym that was going to be noisy, Id often let the officials know I'd nod my head if I had the information I needed to record the foul. Plus the officials & I also made sure we had eye contact through the process. Communication is key.

Originally Posted by Freddy

We really need the Eagle's opinion of this.

Do we have to?