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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:10pm
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I think this would be correct. If not, I think I could "sell it" because the vast majority of coaches would not know better.

A1 is given a replacement free throw
B is awarded the 2 points for the basket made by A at the wrong end
B gets a throw-in and is able to run the baseline (after the replacement FT)

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...well, you know the rest.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:13pm
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I think this would be correct. If not, I think I could "sell it" because the vast majority of coaches would not know better.

A1 is given a replacement free throw
B is awarded the 2 points for the basket made by A at the wrong end
B gets a throw-in and is able to run the baseline (after the replacement FT)

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...well, you know the rest.
It seems like a case when fairness is thrown out the window.

I mean, it's not "fair" that Team B is given the points since Team A was led to believe they were at the correct basket by the officials. But it's not "fair" that Team A is given those points and gets a free throw attempt (possible three point play).
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:20pm
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If the last action is a field goal for B, why does B get the ball?
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:28pm
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If the last action is a field goal for B, why does B get the ball?
Good point. So is this the answer?...

1. A1 is given a replacement free throw at the correct basket with the lane clear. If made Team A is given a point and we go to point of interruption, if the free throw is missed we simply go to point of interruption.

2. Team A is given a throw in on the endline (under Team B's basket), and allowed to run the line since if follows a successful field goal.

Note: Although the basket was scored by A2, it was made at Team B's basket, therefore Team B is given two points and the basket is not awarded to any one player (a notation is made in the scorebook).
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:47pm
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No way can this basket count for B when everybody on the court, apparently including the officials, thought it was being shot at the correct basket. This would fall under the part (somebody help me with rule #) where the officials allow the teams to go the wrong way.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:47pm
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No way can this basket count for B when everybody on the court, apparently including the officials, thought it was being shot at the correct basket. This would fall under the part (somebody help me with rule #) where the officials allow the teams to go the wrong way.
The rule is 4-5-4. Some might argue the context of the rule pertains to the start of the game, the 2nd half or any overtime period. See related Caseplays 5.2.1 E and F.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:49pm
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The rule is 4-5-4. Some might argue the context of the rule pertains to the start of the game, the 2nd half or any overtime period. See related Caseplays 5.2.1 E and F.
And I would argue that this is the example given because this is the most likely time for this to occur. The officials allowed the teams to go the wrong way in the OP. I see no reason why this rule would not apply.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:54pm
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It seems like a case when fairness is thrown out the window.
Very little about the correctable error rule is fair. It's just something that the NFHS jerry–rigged together to get the game back on the right track after an error.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:58pm
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Very little about the correctable error rule is fair. It's just something that the NFHS jerry–rigged together to get the game back on the right track after an error.

Actually, the CER is not a NFHS jerry-rigged rule but one that pre-dates the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees. The CER has been the same in both NFHS and NCAA (except for some simultaneous tweaking by both Rules Committees in either the late 1980's or early 1990's) since before the 1962-63 school year which means it goes back to the NBCUSC (National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada) which is the precursor of the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees.

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Old Wed Oct 08, 2014, 09:13pm
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Actually, the CER is not a NFHS jerry-rigged rule but one that pre-dates the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees. The CER has been the same in both NFHS and NCAA (except for some simultaneous tweaking by both Rules Committees in either the late 1980's or early 1990's) since before the 1962-63 school year which means it goes back to the NBCUSC (National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada) which is the precursor of the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees.

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Old Wed Oct 08, 2014, 09:45pm
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The fact that you know this is sooooooo scary or you are too old.

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I officiated women's college basketball from 1974 to 2008.
Six-on-six basketball?
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