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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:30am
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At least two of those (notifying captains; asking for a match-up) are incorrect.

And, at least a few times a season, the captain can come in handy to help deal with a different player. It especially seems to help get the message across when you use the first name.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:27am
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We use the "speaking captain" more as a liaison between us and his/her teammates, not the only person on the team that can speak to us. That doesn't mean we won't talk to any of the players, but some times things happen in which we'll go to the "speaking captain" for help.

Take a situation in which a player is getting frustrated and could become a problem. We'll try and talk to the player, but the player clearly doesn't want to listen to us. In that case we'll go to the "speaking captain" and tell them to calm their team mate down. Sure, we may go to the coach instead or in addition to the "speaking captain", but there are cases in which having one "go to" player can come in handy.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:37am
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We use the "speaking captain" more as a liaison between us and his/her teammates, not the only person on the team that can speak to us. That doesn't mean we won't talk to any of the players, but some times things happen in which we'll go to the "speaking captain" for help.

Take a situation in which a player is getting frustrated and could become a problem. We'll try and talk to the player, but the player clearly doesn't want to listen to us. In that case we'll go to the "speaking captain" and tell them to calm their team mate down. Sure, we may go to the coach instead or in addition to the "speaking captain", but there are cases in which having one "go to" player can come in handy.
I have a much easier time picking out the actual leader on the floor than remembering which players were captains before the game started.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:39am
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I'll start asking for the speaking captain when A) they change the rules to allow only the speaking captain to speak, or B) there's a coin flip. Till then, seems utterly pointless. Frankly, the entire captain's meeting seems pointless, but the rules call for it. And of course, if your particular Rome calls for asking for the speaking captain, then ask.

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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:08am
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I'll start asking for the speaking captain when A) they change the rules to allow only the speaking captain to speak, or B) there's a coin flip. Till then, seems utterly pointless. Frankly, the entire captain's meeting seems pointless, but the rules call for it. And of course, if your particular Rome calls for asking for the speaking captain, then ask.
Agree. Speaking captain? Who cares. I don't ask and if I have a partner who does ask, I'll have forgotten it by the time the captains meeting is over.
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I just fulfill the requirement by asking "Who's speaking for red?"
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I just fulfill the requirement by asking "Who's speaking for red?"
I agree. I do not care to remember honestly beyond asking initially. I do sometimes write it down in the book and that is about it. It is mostly ceremonial so they feel like we are doing our job or give them importance, but it is really not that important to me.

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Old Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:02am
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I have a much easier time picking out the actual leader on the floor than remembering which players were captains before the game started.
I agree.

Most of the HS teams in our area choose different "captains" for each game. It's just a thing the coaches do - the same as when I played, back in the 60's.
So, in our pre-game, I tell my partner(s) that we should try to identify the real leaders of both teams during their warm-ups. It's helpful, in the case of a dust-up during the game, to know who has influence with his/her teammates, and can help us, as a calming factor.
I will, sometimes, refer to a player as "captain," as I hand him/her the ball for a throw-in. It seems to reinforce, in their mind and demeanor, the opportunity and responsibility to be a leader.
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At least two of those (notifying captains; asking for a match-up) are incorrect.
Notifying captains: 2-7. Asking for matchup: 3-3-E.

I know that I'm walking on thin ice if I don't always listen to bob, but how are either of these incorrect?
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:32pm
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Notifying captains: 2-7. Asking for matchup: 3-3-E.

I know that I'm walking on thin ice if I don't always listen to bob, but how are either of these incorrect?
I was referring to the "no one ever does this" parts of the post.
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