"Purple" or "Blue"

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by johnny d

There are HS guys around here that ask for and will only talk to the speaking captain as well. What a stupid idea. When I am the R, I never ask who the speaking captain is since it means absolutely nothing to me. I will talk to and answer questions for just about any player that speaks to me in a respectful manner....

I won't go rulebook digging right now, but I'm quite certain the rule says that any player (read: checked into the game) may address an official.

Originally Posted by bainsey

I won't go rulebook digging right now, but I'm quite certain the rule says that any player (read: checked into the game) may address an official.

Yeah but the rulebook also says a team is composed of five players, one of whom is the captain. Not sure why anyone would need to know who that one guy is though...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Not sure why anyone would need to know who that one guy is though...

Notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the
game.

The captain is the representative of his/her team and may address
an official on matters of interpretation or to obtain essential information, if it is
done in a courteous manner.

A captain may request a defensive match-up if three or more substitutes
from the same team enter during an opportunity to substitute.

The free throw(s) awarded because of a personal foul shall be attempted by the
offended player. If such player must withdraw because of an injury or
disqualification, his/her substitute shall attempt the throw(s) unless no substitute
is available, in which case any teammate may attempt the throw(s) as selected by
the team captain or head coach.

The free throws awarded because of a technical foul may be attempted by any
player of the offended team, including an eligible substitute or designated starter.
The coach or captain shall designate the free thrower(s).

I get your point Billy but there is a difference between what the rulebook allows and what actually happens during typical game. (Slight exaggeration added below).

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Notifying the captains when play is about to begin at the start of the game.

Literally no one has ever done this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The captain is the representative of his/her team and may address an official on matters of interpretation or to obtain essential information, if it is done in a courteous manner.

I'll let any player address me if done in a courteous manner.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A captain may request a defensive match-up if three or more substitutes from the same team enter during an opportunity to substitute.

No player has ever asked for this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The free throw(s) awarded because of a personal foul shall be attempted by the offended player. If such player must withdraw because of an injury or disqualification, his/her substitute shall attempt the throw(s) unless no substitute is available, in which case any teammate may attempt the throw(s) as selected by the team captain or head coach.

Head coach always chooses.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The free throws awarded because of a technical foul may be attempted by any player of the offended team, including an eligible substitute or designated starter. The coach or captain shall designate the free thrower(s).

Head coach always chooses.

[bob jenkins]

At least two of those (notifying captains; asking for a match-up) are incorrect.

And, at least a few times a season, the captain can come in handy to help deal with a different player. It especially seems to help get the message across when you use the first name.

[BryanV21]

We use the "speaking captain" more as a liaison between us and his/her teammates, not the only person on the team that can speak to us. That doesn't mean we won't talk to any of the players, but some times things happen in which we'll go to the "speaking captain" for help.

Take a situation in which a player is getting frustrated and could become a problem. We'll try and talk to the player, but the player clearly doesn't want to listen to us. In that case we'll go to the "speaking captain" and tell them to calm their team mate down. Sure, we may go to the coach instead or in addition to the "speaking captain", but there are cases in which having one "go to" player can come in handy.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

We use the "speaking captain" more as a liaison between us and his/her teammates, not the only person on the team that can speak to us. That doesn't mean we won't talk to any of the players, but some times things happen in which we'll go to the "speaking captain" for help.

Take a situation in which a player is getting frustrated and could become a problem. We'll try and talk to the player, but the player clearly doesn't want to listen to us. In that case we'll go to the "speaking captain" and tell them to calm their team mate down. Sure, we may go to the coach instead or in addition to the "speaking captain", but there are cases in which having one "go to" player can come in handy.

I have a much easier time picking out the actual leader on the floor than remembering which players were captains before the game started.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

At least two of those (notifying captains; asking for a match-up) are incorrect.

Notifying captains: 2-7. Asking for matchup: 3-3-E.

I know that I'm walking on thin ice if I don't always listen to bob, but how are either of these incorrect?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Notifying captains: 2-7. Asking for matchup: 3-3-E.

I know that I'm walking on thin ice if I don't always listen to bob, but how are either of these incorrect?

I was referring to the "no one ever does this" parts of the post.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I get your point Billy but there is a difference between what the rulebook allows and what actually happens during typical game. (Slight exaggeration added below).



Literally no one has ever done this.

Wrong. I notify the captains before every toss I make.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

Wrong. I notify the captains before every toss I make.

Isn't that outlined in the Mechanics Manual as part of the proper procedure???

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Isn't that outlined in the Mechanics Manual as part of the proper procedure???

I'll get dinged for that one, unless one considers blowing my whistle as notifying the captains.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Rich

Wrong. I notify the captains before every toss I make.

Because walking to the center circle with the ball in your hand is not signal enough that the game is about to start?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Because walking to the center circle with the ball in your hand is not signal enough that the game is about to start?

It's my one old school thing that I do. It's still in the book, but I do it mainly because it's probably the only thing that hasn't changed in 28 years.

Frankly, I couldn't give a damn what other people think of me doing it.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Because walking to the center circle with the ball in your hand is not signal enough that the game is about to start?

Because it's in the book.

Should be reason enough for why someone does it.