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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:10pm
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Wrong. I notify the captains before every toss I make.
I notify everyone....so I get the captains whether I know who they are or not.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:38pm
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Loud Enough For The Bench To Hear ???

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I notify everyone....so I get the captains whether I know who they are or not.
What if the "speaking" captain isn't a starter?

(Note: I do the same thing.)
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:31pm
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I notify everyone....so I get the captains whether I know who they are or not.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:36pm
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Literally no one has ever done this ... No player has ever asked for this.
Literally? Really? I let all the players, including the captains, know that I'm ready to start, just before I sound my whistle for the opening jump ball. Since I don't ask for a "speaking" captain, I direct my comments to all ten players, which should include the two "speaking" captains, assuming that the two "speaking" captains are starters. We have officials that do ask for "speaking" captains, and several of them remember who they are and actually ask each individually, often by name, if they are ready before sounding their whistle for the opening tap.

AremRed: No player has ever asked you for a "lineup", or a "matchup"? You must be a rookie official with only ten, or fifteen, maybe twenty, years of experience. In thirty-three years I bet that I've been asked about a half dozen times, including a few in high school games. Of course, this rule did disappear from the rulebook for several years, and then magically reappear. We used to do this around the nearest of three, that's right, three, jump ball circles.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:21am
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I won't go rulebook digging right now, but I'm quite certain the rule says that any player (read: checked into the game) may address an official.
I will not disagree with the philosophy, but how about a citation, please?
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:22am
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I will not disagree with the philosophy, but how about a citation, please?
I am pretty sure that the rules allows the captains to do specific things. In practice we do not always speak to officials just because they are a captain. I will speak to the "leader" whether they have the title or any player that is respectful for the most part.

But I do ask for the speaking captain just so I can tell who the coach considers more of their leader.

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Old Thu Jun 19, 2014, 10:09am
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I will not disagree with the philosophy, but how about a citation, please?
Very well, upon further inspection:

NFHS Rule 3-1-2 "The captain ... may address an official on matters of interpretation or to obtain essential information, if it is done in a courteous manner. Any player may address an official to request a time-out or permission to leave the court."

So, I suppose a non-captain player is not supposed to ask for info courteously, but if he did, would you consider this unsportsmanlike? Hardly, I say. I typically won't address bench personnel, but if they're on the floor, as I like to say in pre-game, "question anything you like, as long as you're civil about it."

There's also an IAABO mechanic to inform the captains, scorer, and timer, at the start of each overtime period, that we start with a jump ball, the arrow starts fresh, there's an additional 60-second time-out, and we'll continue in the same direction we'll be going.

I say, just call for the captains if and when that happens. No need to memorize anything.
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:29pm
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I suppose a non-captain player is not supposed to ask for info courteously, but if he did, would you consider this unsportsmanlike?
Of course. Flagrant technical foul, and toss him, his coach, the speaking captain, and the horses that they all rode in on.
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