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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 07:28am
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legal move or not?
A1 receives a pass with both feet on the floor, jumps and lands simultaneously on both feet and then releases a shot. Is this a legal move or is it a travel?
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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 07:41am
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A1 receives a pass with both feet on the floor, jumps and lands simultaneously on both feet and then releases a shot. Is this a legal move or is it a travel?

Traveling.

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A1 receives a pass with both feet on the floor, jumps and lands simultaneously on both feet and then releases a shot. Is this a legal move or is it a travel?
You are seriously overthinking this one...LOL
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A1 receives a pass with both feet on the floor, jumps and lands simultaneously on both feet and then releases a shot. Is this a legal move or is it a travel?
Is this one of those "squaring up" moves that shooters do all the time?
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Is this one of those "squaring up" moves that shooters do all the time?
Does it matter? When is it ever legal to have possession of the ball, jump off 2 feet and land with the ball still in your possession?
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Does it matter? When is it ever legal to have possession of the ball, jump off 2 feet and land with the ball still in your possession?
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You mean NCAA? That is the place I see that move the most not called. Heck it hardly gets called in HS games that I see as well.

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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 02:42pm
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Hey... if it is not being called in HS, then I am not going to be 'That Guy' and call it an illegal move. As long as it looks like a good athletic move then it must be legal.
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Does it matter? When is it ever legal to have possession of the ball, jump off 2 feet and land with the ball still in your possession?
Legal? No. Ignored if trifling? Yes.

Do you call traveling in your D1 games when a player does this very scenario when squaring up to shoot?
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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 08:19pm
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Legal? No. Ignored i of trifling? Yes.

Do you call traveling in your D1 games when a player does this very scenario when squaring up to shoot?
I don't know what 'ignored if trifling' means.
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I don't know what 'ignored if trifling' means.
Ignored if no advantage.
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Old Mon May 19, 2014, 09:24pm
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Legal? No. Ignored if trifling? Yes.

Do you call traveling in your D1 games when a player does this very scenario when squaring up to shoot?
I am certainly not a D1 official and will not speak for what one of them will actually do, but this was addressed by John Adams a few times over the years and he feels it should be called. I have never heard him make the suggestion that it matters if there is an advantage. I would agree with you if it is not obvious or we are splitting hairs, but this is usually pretty obvious to see and should be called IMO.

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Legal? No. Ignored if trifling? Yes.
"Trifling" is a soccer officiating term. I've never heard it in basketball.

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.
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Move as described in OP = travel.

Complicating factors in games.

Player can have two feet on the floor and hop as they complete the initial catch without travelling ie. Determining when control is established.

Player can have one foot on the floor, hop onto two and shoot it without traveling. ie. Determining when control is established and if only 1 foot was on the floor making it a jump stop - but that now cannot pivot.
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Old Tue May 20, 2014, 11:27am
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"Trifling" is a soccer officiating term. I've never heard it in basketball.

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.
It is more than a soccer term. It is a social term too.

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