Held ball or foul?

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Some did not make this statement. You're basing your question off hearsay by Jeremy.

It has been said by some that most contact after the shot is blocked does not disadvantage the shooter and therefore is not a foul. You can find it on this site if you care to search for it.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

It has been said by some that most contact after the shot is blocked does not disadvantage the shooter and therefore is not a foul. You can find it on this site if you care to search for it.

Perhaps.
That, and the time-worn phrase, "...in my game...".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

It has been said by some that most contact after the shot is blocked does not disadvantage the shooter and therefore is not a foul. You can find it on this site if you care to search for it.

That's not you said initially here. I went ahead and highlighted the important changes.

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I agree with you yet some will say that if you block the shot first than all other contact after is not a foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

That's not you said initially here. I went ahead and highlighted the important changes.

This is when I hate that I'm color-blind. I can barely tell that you changed the font color on those 2 words.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This is when I hate that I'm color-blind. I can barely tell that you changed the font color on those 2 words.

Would different colors help?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

This is when I hate that I'm color-blind. I can barely tell that you changed the font color on those 2 words.

How did you tell the teams apart before the home side was required to wear white?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How did you tell the teams apart before the home side was required to wear white?

Odd/even numbers?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

Would different colors help?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

I agree with you yet some will say that if you block the shot first than all other contact after is not a foul.

Not the same. In the blocked shot case, the ball is often flying into the bleachers or somewhere such that the shooter was not going to be playing it anyway. Additionally, not ALL contact is considered incidental, just some types and amounts of contact.

However, landing on the player who is holding the ball almost certainly prevents them from being able to make some sort of play with the ball.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

I'm not sure about the sort of games every officiates but high end boys games JV, Varsity, higher+ in this neck of the woods you getting landed on is probably the least severe amount of contact you are going to deal with on a given possession.

Panther, this is the basketball board. Perhaps your intended for your post to be on the football board.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you sure about that? The English language is a forever changing thing and always will be. If you know someone that speaks under all the rules and does not use slang, dialect or other social media language it will be a very rare occasion. Oh and the English that spoke the language speak it differently than people in the US. And people in this country never speak it the same way or understand it the same way.

Peace

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Panther, this is the basketball board. Perhaps your intended for your post to be on the football board.

Nope I got the right one. We don't play football around here and if we do its 3 downs with unlimited people in motion so its really not the same anyway.

This may just be my opinion but if we are talking about rough play a player ending up contacting or on top of another player during the course of a contact sport doesn't seem excessive.

If we are scaling rough play in a non basketball sense. If siblings are rolling around on the floor or grass tugging at a ball thats not really problematic. Someone throws a kick, punch or dirty shot that is problematic.

On any given basketball possession players can clip themselves trip over a teammates limb, fight through limbs and contact, get stove piped on a screen that doesn't get communicated by a teammate, catch an elbow on a post move/screen/rebound, etc . .. all of which may be legal/incidental. All of which are have more severe physical/emtional repsonse (pain, embarassment, frustration) then a body ending up on top of you temporarily.

Most people IME are less likely to react to someone who ends up ontop of them in the course of making a play on the ball then they are to some jabbing at them, striking at them with limbs or shoving/popping them on rebounds and screens. If I am supposed to call fouls to make sure I'm not encouraging rough play I'm getting as many of those as I can I'm not worried about two bodies that end up on top of one another after I was going to call a jump ball anyway.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I see a 70 in "A"; is there a 6 in "D"?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see a 70 in "A"; is there a 6 in "D"?

Diagnosis: BadNewsRef has Red Color Blindness. (Disclaimer: I am not an ophthalmologist, nor do I play one on television.)



1. Normal Color Vision:
A: 29, B: 45, C: --, D: 26

2. Red-Green Color-Blind:
A: 70, B: --, C: 5, D: --

3. Red Color-blind:
A: 70, B: --, C: 5, D: 6

4. Green Color-Blind:
A: 70, B: --, C: 5, D: 2

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

In JRutledge's defense, I did not include a Roll Eyes Sarcastic Smilie in my post. I don't do Smilies. There weren't any Smiles in Beowulf, or The Canterbury Tales, so why should I use them? Did William Shakespeare use Smilies in Hamlet?