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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 09:05am
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So if the jumper just grabs the toss instead of tipping to a teammate it is a violation. What happens to the arrow?
See 6.4.1C and E, and the related rules.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 09:21am
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A1 is the only one to tip the jump ball. The ball touches the playing court and A1 is the first one to obtain player control. Legal or Violation. If it is a violation, then what?
I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 10:04am
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The strange part after having the discussion with this referee. Showing him the rule and these posts. He still states that the OP is a violation.
They should know by now, NOT to question my rules knowledge.
This is why I am choosy about with whom I have rules conversations.

I don't like talking to brick walls.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 10:06am
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I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.
I know the rule b/c I kicked it early in my HS career.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 10:28am
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I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.
I this in back-to-back AAU games this summer. I called neither of them, the "R" was on point. Also had a stolen tip that day.

I know what you mean about talking to yourself. Whenever I have a weird play it kinda distracts me for the next few minutes. I need to improve my focus on the next play. That's the only one that really matters.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 11:14am
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I actually had this scenario for the first time (at least that I can remember) over the summer. Happily I remembered the rule but I was talking to myself about the scenario for the first few minutes of the game.
I whistled this dead the first time I saw it, but immediately went with IW since I knew the rule. Coach questioned me on it, but accepted my response that it's legal once it hits the floor.
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 11:56am
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This is why I am choosy about with whom I have rules conversations.

I don't like talking to brick walls.

People always wonder why I talk to myself. It is the only way I can have an intelligent conversation.

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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 03:08pm
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Old Tue Oct 07, 2014, 05:34pm
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What happens to the arrow?
Lose the ball, and win the arrow, but it wasn't always this way, the rule changed about ten years ago. Before that an illegal possession was still considered a possession. I guess the NFHS came to its senses and considered the double jeopardy penalty to be too harsh.
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Old Wed Oct 08, 2014, 06:24am
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Lose the ball, and win the arrow.
And, if the timekeeper starts the game clock, in error, when the tossed ball is grabbed, then be sure to reset the game clock to 8:00 because, by rule, it was an illegal touch.

5-9-2: If play is started or resumed by a jump, the clock shall be started when the tossed ball is legally touched.

6-3-7-C: Neither jumper shall: Catch the jump ball.

9-6: A player shall not violate any provision of the jump ball (6-3).

I know that many on the Forum will disagree with that, so, let the games begin.
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Old Wed Oct 08, 2014, 07:38am
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99.9% of the time, the ball is tipped and then caught.

I've heard of, but never seen, a jumper go up with two hands and grab the ball.
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