The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:22pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
PC or nothing... leaning PC though.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:39pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
No call or PC....that's a ballsy call.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:45pm
NFHS Official
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,734
PC or nothing. No way I penalize the defense for this.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:46pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,558
I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 01:59pm
beware big brother
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: illinois
Posts: 996
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge View Post
I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace

I disagree. It might not be fair, but once the defender fails to gain or loses LGP, then he is responsible for contact, even if said contact was completely initiated by the offensive player.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:31pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,558
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny d View Post
I disagree. It might not be fair, but once the defender fails to gain or loses LGP, then he is responsible for contact, even if said contact was completely initiated by the offensive player.
I look at this play similarly to when a ball handler pushes off with their off arm that is not dribbling. Of course in many cases the defender might not be in LGP, but that does not give them the right to push off or create space just to take a shot or to get around the defender. So this to me is similar in the fact the shooter did an unusual motion just to throw himself into his opponent. That is why I would likely try to pass on this or call a foul on the shooter. But that would be if I was thinking that fast or had the proper angle to see all of that action by the shooter.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 07:41pm
Play through it!!!
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 34
Player control if there is a whistle...

I would most likely have nothing here
__________________
"I sincerely hope there is basketball in heaven!!!"
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 07:42pm
Rich's Avatar
Get away from me, Steve.
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 15,794
It's a miserable thing because the right call (no call) is gonna get you screamed at more than making the wrong call (defensive foul).
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 521
The defender was called for the foul. Watching it live I thought it was the right call. With benefit of replay and slow motion I can see why fans of the defender's team might disagree.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:52pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spence View Post
The defender was called for the foul. Watching it live I thought it was the right call. With benefit of replay and slow motion I can see why fans of the defender's team might disagree.
I couldn't care less about either team, but I'm with MD Longhorn on this. PC or nothing. The defender looks veritical to me, I don't see what he did wrong.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:33pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Virginia
Posts: 546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spence View Post
The defender was called for the foul. Watching it live I thought it was the right call. With benefit of replay and slow motion I can see why fans of the defender's team might disagree.
I agree with this. From the angle here, in slow motion, it did appear that the defender was jumping pretty much vertically, but a view from the endline might show something different.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:46pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Orange, NJ
Posts: 2,583
PC or nothing on this for me. I'd lean towards nothing mainly because the defender wasn't (edit) displaced.
__________________
"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example."
"If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..."
"Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4."
"The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge)

Last edited by JetMetFan; Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 02:57pm.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:46pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by JetMetFan View Post
PC or nothing on this for me. I'd lean towards nothing mainly because the defender was displaced.
I'm confused.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: West Orange, NJ
Posts: 2,583
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
I'm confused.
Sorry. I mean't wasn't. I changed my original post.
__________________
"Everyone has a purpose in life, even if it's only to serve as a bad example."
"If Opportunity knocks and he's not home, Opportunity waits..."
"Don't you have to be stupid somewhere else?" "Not until 4."
"The NCAA created this mess, so let them live with it." (JRutledge)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Offensive Foul after Shooting Foul? potato Basketball 29 Sat Oct 12, 2013 07:41am
Common Shooting Foul Followed by a Technical Foul tophat67 Basketball 9 Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:57am
Shooting Foul with Technical Foul / How Many FTs? rgncjn Basketball 5 Mon Jan 08, 2007 03:29am
Shooting Foul & Technical - Free Throw Shooting? brightstripes54 Basketball 10 Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:56pm
Shooting Foul mbloise Basketball 3 Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:27am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:37am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1