Shooting Foul/PC/Nothing?

[JRutledge]

I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace

I disagree. It might not be fair, but once the defender fails to gain or loses LGP, then he is responsible for contact, even if said contact was completely initiated by the offensive player.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I disagree. It might not be fair, but once the defender fails to gain or loses LGP, then he is responsible for contact, even if said contact was completely initiated by the offensive player.

I look at this play similarly to when a ball handler pushes off with their off arm that is not dribbling. Of course in many cases the defender might not be in LGP, but that does not give them the right to push off or create space just to take a shot or to get around the defender. So this to me is similar in the fact the shooter did an unusual motion just to throw himself into his opponent. That is why I would likely try to pass on this or call a foul on the shooter. But that would be if I was thinking that fast or had the proper angle to see all of that action by the shooter.

Peace

[Ref16]

Player control if there is a whistle...

I would most likely have nothing here

[Rich]

It's a miserable thing because the right call (no call) is gonna get you screamed at more than making the wrong call (defensive foul).