Shooting Foul/PC/Nothing?

[Spence]

Pangallo foul on Ruthsatz- You Make the Call - YouTube

[JRutledge]

I would be tempted to call nothing. The shooter threw himself into the defender who was not completely legal, but the only reason all that contact took place was because of the shooter.

Peace

[#olderthanilook]

The defender established LGP, jumped straight up into the air. Then, the offensive player lunged into the defender. I probably pass. If there is a foul, it's PC.

[ballgame99]

From that angle D looks to be in his vertical space, so I don't see a foul on B1. I would be inclined to no-call this, but wouldn't argue a PC call either since A1 created more than incidental contact. I really can't see calling a shooting foul there at all.

[MD Longhorn]

PC or nothing... leaning PC though.

No call or PC....that's a ballsy call.

[OKREF]

PC or nothing. No way I penalize the defense for this.

[JRutledge]

I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace

[eyezen]

If the trail was in good position and had a look that showed something different than the video I'm OK with a block - otherwise as seen nothing.

A PC would be a real tough sell.

[Spence]

The defender was called for the foul. Watching it live I thought it was the right call. With benefit of replay and slow motion I can see why fans of the defender's team might disagree.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Spence

The defender was called for the foul. Watching it live I thought it was the right call. With benefit of replay and slow motion I can see why fans of the defender's team might disagree.

I couldn't care less about either team, but I'm with MD Longhorn on this. PC or nothing. The defender looks veritical to me, I don't see what he did wrong.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

A1 created more than incidental contact.

I disagree. B1 was not disadvantaged on this, imo.

No call.

But, I will admit that a lot of the perception, on both sides, is that B will be called for the foul if he gets faked into the air like that.

[pfan1981]

Someone should post video of an official calling PC on a play like this. And then the coach going bonkers.

[DRJ1960]

Pc

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not think this is a legal defender. But when a shooter just throws himself into a defender like this, I cannot penalize the defender.

Peace

I disagree. It might not be fair, but once the defender fails to gain or loses LGP, then he is responsible for contact, even if said contact was completely initiated by the offensive player.