Throw in BC?

[Adam]

No violation. On a throw in, TC only exists for the purposes of determining if bonus free throws should be shot. PC needs to be established in bounds before FC status can be established.

[JetMetFan]

If A2 had caught the ball and brought it into the backcourt then it would have been a violation (i.e., the scenario presented in casebook play 9.9.1D).

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

If A2 had caught the ball and brought it into the backcourt then it would have been a violation (i.e., the scenario presented in casebook play 9.9.1D).

While that is correct, I think it is a bad rule.

I think the backcourt airborne player exception should apply up to and including the first person that catches a ball, not just touches the ball, that is not in control of their team whether it is form a throwin, steal, jump ball, or shot attempt.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Adam

No violation. On a throw in, TC only exists for the purposes of determining if bonus free throws should be shot. PC needs to be established in bounds before FC status can be established.

Whereas the last sentence above is correct, can we say that that standard applicable only in a throw-in situation?
What bothers me is the way that contradicts 9.1.1.C(a), which happens when A1 in the backcourt passes to A2 in the frontcourt but the pass hits A2 in the back of the head and deflects back to the backcourt where A1 touches it again. That casebook situation says that is a backcourt violation, though PC was not established in the frontcourt.
Is this different because it was not on a throw-in and because the ball hitting A2 established FC status for the ball, thus a backcourt violation?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

No violation. On a throw in, TC only exists for the purposes of determining if bonus free throws should be shot. PC needs to be established in bounds before FC status can be established.

Originally Posted by Freddy

Whereas the last sentence above is correct, can we say that that standard applicable only in a throw-in situation?
What bothers me is the way that contradicts 9.1.1.C(a), which happens when A1 in the backcourt passes to A2 in the frontcourt but the pass hits A2 in the back of the head and deflects back to the backcourt where A1 touches it again. That casebook situation says that is a backcourt violation, though PC was not established in the frontcourt.
Is this different because it was not on a throw-in and because the ball hitting A2 established FC status for the ball, thus a backcourt violation?

PC does not have to be established in the FC, it has to be established inbounds. After PC is established inbounds, BC rules then come into play.

[MD Longhorn]

PC needs to be established in bounds before FC status can be established.

Originally Posted by Freddy

Whereas the last sentence above is correct, can we say that that standard applicable only in a throw-in situation?
What bothers me is the way that contradicts 9.1.1.C(a), which happens when A1 in the backcourt passes to A2 in the frontcourt but the pass hits A2 in the back of the head and deflects back to the backcourt where A1 touches it again. That casebook situation says that is a backcourt violation, though PC was not established in the frontcourt.
Is this different because it was not on a throw-in and because the ball hitting A2 established FC status for the ball, thus a backcourt violation?

His quote was correct.

It's different... because in your situation PC is established in bounds --- BY A1.