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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 11:53am
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Coach (eventually) ejected

GV area game. Team A getting whipped by 20+ all game. In the 4th quarter, Coach A blows up and uses profanity at U1. He calls the T and he and I begin getting the free throw shooter, etc. U2 goes to A's bench to sit coach A down. Coach A says she's done and walks off her bench and into A's locker room near her bench at the end of the court. She was not ejected, she just left. Assistant coach is instructed he must remain seated for remainder of the game and we play on. After a few minutes, original Coach A comes back and starts standing and coaching again. U2 steps over to remind her she must now sit, to which she replied, "I ain't gotta do nothing!" U2 assesses her second T and ejects her.

Should we have assessed the second T when she left the bench (unsporting)? She didn't "show out" when she left...she just left.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 12:37pm
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I think you could've called a second technical when the coach left under 10-4-1e, 10-4-1f, 10-5-1 (the coach left the bench for a reason not allowed by rule).

Not sure if I would have or not though... of course, in your situation, the situation resolved itself rather quickly anyway.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 01:08pm
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I would not call the 2nd T for the coach quietly leaving the gym and leaving their assistant in charge.
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Old Sun Feb 09, 2014, 08:23pm
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If she left quietly, then I wouldn't bother with doing anything. I think you guys handled things right.

BTW, whether or not there was a technical foul against the head coach, the assistant is not allowed to stand. He/she is still an assistant coach, and only head coaches can stand.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:01am
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1. Using profanity towards an official probably should have been ruled a flagrant technical in the first place and DQ'd the coach right then.

2. If the head coach leaves the bench for an unauthorized reason, the appropriate technical foul most certainly should be assessed.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 12:04am
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1. Using profanity towards an official probably should have been ruled a flagrant technical in the first place and DQ'd the coach right then.
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Profanity = Flagrant?

I sure should have a lot of ejections in my career then.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:48pm
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1. Using profanity towards an official probably should have been ruled a flagrant technical in the first place and DQ'd the coach right then.

2. If the head coach leaves the bench for an unauthorized reason, the appropriate technical foul most certainly should be assessed.
Is there any support in the book for swearing by a coach to be an ejection? I like it and want to look at it more closely as the right option.
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Old Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:47pm
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GV area game. Team A getting whipped by 20+ all game. In the 4th quarter, Coach A blows up and uses profanity at U1. He calls the T and he and I begin getting the free throw shooter, etc. U2 goes to A's bench to sit coach A down. Coach A says she's done and walks off her bench and into A's locker room near her bench at the end of the court. She was not ejected, she just left. Assistant coach is instructed he must remain seated for remainder of the game and we play on. After a few minutes, original Coach A comes back and starts standing and coaching again. U2 steps over to remind her she must now sit, to which she replied, "I ain't gotta do nothing!" U2 assesses her second T and ejects her.

Should we have assessed the second T when she left the bench (unsporting)? She didn't "show out" when she left...she just left.
Honestly, I would have done the same thing. Sure, you could issue her second T when she leaves (leaving the bench area), and some may say you should. I couldn't argue with that, I just don't know that I would have. Worst case scenario, she comes back and does/says something stupid. You can deal with that when it happens.

That said, if the powers that be in your area want this called when she leaves, then do it that way. Otherwise, I wouldn't go looking for trouble.
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