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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 05:15pm
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dead ball technicals

A1 gets rebound. B1 and B2 are defending. B1 fouls A1 right as B2 ties up ball. B2 continues and tosses A1 to floor. Team A is in bonus 1 and 1. I call TF on B2. A1 shoots bonus, then TF . We spot ball nearest the foul. Can a dead ball technical also be intentional? Or could have anyone shot TF and ball at division line.
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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 05:43pm
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A1 gets rebound. B1 and B2 are defending. B1 fouls A1 right as B2 ties up ball. B2 continues and tosses A1 to floor. Team A is in bonus 1 and 1. I call TF on B2. A1 shoots bonus, then TF . We spot ball nearest the foul. Can a dead ball technical also be intentional? Or could have anyone shot TF and ball at division line.
A dead ball foul that involves contact is always an intentionla technical foul or a flagrant technical foul.

All technical fouls can be shot by (almost*) anyone on the team and the ball is (almost**) always onbounded at the division line.

* - any eligible player or sub
** -- unless there's some other act that follows
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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 06:13pm
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Ts are always two shots and the ball at the division line (NFHS).
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Old Sat Feb 01, 2014, 10:56pm
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Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.
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Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.
Uncalled for contact after the whistle=Technical foul...not our concern as officials, we enforce the rules. It could most def be a game changing play, so hopefully the player who decided to throw a guy to the ground after the fact will learn his lesson and not make another boneheaded decision that could put his team in that situation again.
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Wow! but this could be a game changing play.
So?
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Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.
Good incentive to not be knuckleheads.
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Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.
I had a varsity game this year with 2 T's in similar situations for players attitude in the last 90 seconds of the game. Each time it was double bonus, T's then the ball. The team that got the T's lost by 3.
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Ts are always two shots and the ball at the division line (NFHS).
Dead ball contact fouls are treated that way as well at the NCAA Men's level.

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A dead ball foul that involves contact is always an intentionla technical foul or a flagrant technical foul.

All technical fouls can be shot by (almost*) anyone on the team and the ball is (almost**) always onbounded at the division line.

* - any eligible player or sub
** -- unless there's some other act that follows
Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?
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Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?
I was really thinking "by the team that shot" when I wrote this -- so there could be another T and B could inbound.

Or, the T could happen at the end of the game and there might not be a throw-in at all.
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I was really thinking "by the team that shot" when I wrote this -- so there could be another T and B could inbound.

Or, the T could happen at the end of the game and there might not be a throw-in at all.
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Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?
It's possible to have a false double foul where the first is the T and the second is a personal foul.

Not in any way likely, but possible.
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Old Mon Feb 03, 2014, 10:55am
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It's possible to have a false double foul where the first is the T and the second is a personal foul.

Not in any way likely, but possible.

OK... now I'm racking my brain. After the T, the ball will be dead. Since any contact during a dead ball is ignored or a T, how can there be a T followed by a personal? What am I missing?
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A1 closely guarding B1, comments on B1's mom's clothing choices.

The other side of the court an illegal screen is set.
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