dead ball technicals

[howie719]

A1 gets rebound. B1 and B2 are defending. B1 fouls A1 right as B2 ties up ball. B2 continues and tosses A1 to floor. Team A is in bonus 1 and 1. I call TF on B2. A1 shoots bonus, then TF . We spot ball nearest the foul. Can a dead ball technical also be intentional? Or could have anyone shot TF and ball at division line.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by howie719

A1 gets rebound. B1 and B2 are defending. B1 fouls A1 right as B2 ties up ball. B2 continues and tosses A1 to floor. Team A is in bonus 1 and 1. I call TF on B2. A1 shoots bonus, then TF . We spot ball nearest the foul. Can a dead ball technical also be intentional? Or could have anyone shot TF and ball at division line.

A dead ball foul that involves contact is always an intentionla technical foul or a flagrant technical foul.

All technical fouls can be shot by (almost*) anyone on the team and the ball is (almost**) always onbounded at the division line.

* - any eligible player or sub
** -- unless there's some other act that follows

[j51969]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A dead ball foul that involves contact is always an intentionla technical foul or a flagrant technical foul.

All technical fouls can be shot by (almost*) anyone on the team and the ball is (almost**) always onbounded at the division line.

* - any eligible player or sub
** -- unless there's some other act that follows

Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by j51969

Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?

I was really thinking "by the team that shot" when I wrote this -- so there could be another T and B could inbound.

Or, the T could happen at the end of the game and there might not be a throw-in at all.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I was really thinking "by the team that shot" when I wrote this -- so there could be another T and B could inbound.

Or, the T could happen at the end of the game and there might not be a throw-in at all.

Roger

[Adam]

Originally Posted by j51969

Bob,

I am racking my brain, but can't come up with one. What sitch. are you imagining happening that would spot ball elsewhere?

It's possible to have a false double foul where the first is the T and the second is a personal foul.

Not in any way likely, but possible.

[RulesGeek]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's possible to have a false double foul where the first is the T and the second is a personal foul.

Not in any way likely, but possible.

OK... now I'm racking my brain. After the T, the ball will be dead. Since any contact during a dead ball is ignored or a T, how can there be a T followed by a personal? What am I missing?

[deecee]

A1 closely guarding B1, comments on B1's mom's clothing choices.

The other side of the court an illegal screen is set.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by RulesGeek

OK... now I'm racking my brain. After the T, the ball will be dead. Since any contact during a dead ball is ignored or a T, how can there be a T followed by a personal? What am I missing?

A foul during the administration of the FTs for the T?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's possible to have a false double foul where the first is the T and the second is a personal foul.

Not in any way likely, but possible.

you could have a personal followed by double Ts that would offset and resume POI -- so only the penalty for the personal would be administered. And that wouldn't be a throw-in at the division line (unless that's where the foul was, of course)

[Adam]

Ts are always two shots and the ball at the division line (NFHS).

[River Ref]

Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.

[Ref16]

Originally Posted by River Ref

Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.

Uncalled for contact after the whistle=Technical foul...not our concern as officials, we enforce the rules. It could most def be a game changing play, so hopefully the player who decided to throw a guy to the ground after the fact will learn his lesson and not make another boneheaded decision that could put his team in that situation again.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by River Ref

Wow! but this could be a game changing play.

So?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by River Ref

Wow! but this could be a game changing play. A1 hits both of the 1 n 1s and then A_ hits both tech free throws followed by team A throw-in.

Good incentive to not be knuckleheads.