Block/Charge thoughts (video)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I understand that in some situations there are vastly different philosophies between the NCAA-M and NCAA-W but I don't see how a double whistle on a transition play in the paint is a problem. Sure a cadence whistle would probably be better, but I just don't understand the mentality to avoid double whistles.

NCAAW frowns on double whistles in many instances. This would be one of them because the play clearly started and ended in the C's primary. If the C doesn't do anything then the L can blow but those are our marching orders.

[#olderthanilook]

From the video angle, it appears the offensive player's head and shoulders get past the torso of the defender.

According to NFHS rules, that helps us determine the play was a block.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

NCAAW frowns on double whistles in many instances.

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I've heard just the opposite recently.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

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I've heard just the opposite recently.

I'm going off what I heard at camps last summer. Maybe things are changing and word is spreading. Slowly

[ronny mulkey]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

I'm going off what I heard at camps last summer. Maybe things are changing and word is spreading. Slowly

Jet,

A right hand person to the Women's SEC supervisor runs a high school camp(s) down here and he wore us out this past summer for not putting multiple whistles on these type plays. It wasn't a suggestion, either. We have always taught to give it up to the primary and come late if he/she didn't have a whistle. Not the philosophy anymore......

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey

Jet,

A right hand person to the Women's SEC supervisor runs a high school camp(s) down here and he wore us out this past summer for not putting multiple whistles on these type plays. It wasn't a suggestion, either. We have always taught to give it up to the primary and come late if he/she didn't have a whistle. Not the philosophy anymore......

Good to know. Thanks.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

From the video angle, it appears the offensive player's head and shoulders get past the torso of the defender.

According to NFHS rules, that helps us determine the play was a block.

It's not determinative.

Originally Posted by Adam

Head and shoulders is a rule of thumb, it's not a hard/fast rule to define a block. It works well when both players are moving, but even then isn't definitive.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

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I've heard just the opposite recently.

As have I.

But...in the OP play, I don't think the L should have a whistle on this play because he was so late getting down the floor. If he had gotten to the endline sooner, been set up and waiting for the play, then a double on this play would be ok, imo.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

NCAAW frowns on double whistles in many instances. This would be one of them because the play clearly started and ended in the C's primary. If the C doesn't do anything then the L can blow but those are our marching orders.

I wasn't doubting that this is what you have been taught, I just don't understand why the people teaching you that seem to be so adamant about not having double whistles.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

But...in the OP play, I don't think the L should have a whistle on this play because he was so late getting down the floor. If he had gotten to the endline sooner, been set up and waiting for the play, then a double on this play would be ok, imo.

I concur, the L was not in position to have a good look and shouldn't have had a whistle in this play.