Undershirt change prior to Kansas St at Texas

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've had one supervisor this season send out an email specifically addressing illegal undershirts.

What's the deal with players wearing long sleeve undershirts? I've seen it in a few games on TV this season.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

zm1283-man even as a volleyball ref I know this rule cause its exactly the same.I would hope that your assignment coordinator pulled some assignments from those guys for passing on an obvious safety issue? My question for these guys would be what constitutes properly and legally equipped? I know I would hear about it from my superiors if I ever passed on earrings on a player.

[Rob1968]

Last night must have been special, all across the country . . .
W/JV: 2 players warming up with headphones, 2 others with shirts out, 1 with ear studs.
And you guessed it: You're the first ref that's said anything about it!" - as another teammate rolled her eyes in sarcasm . . .

The worst part was the attitude of my partner, who had refused to talk to the girls, at his end of the floor. But, he quickly found out that I wasn't going to let it pass. I don't know whether he was just timid or just didn't think it was no big deal (?!?)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

What's the deal with players wearing long sleeve undershirts? I've seen it in a few games on TV this season.

Nothing illegal about it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

What's the deal with players wearing long sleeve undershirts? I've seen it in a few games on TV this season.

FED: It's allowed

NCAAW: It's allowed, as long as it's a compression shirt

NCAAM: Not (supposed to be) allowed

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Nothing illegal about it.

NCAAM 1-23
Art. 1. An undershirt is considered to be part of the game jersey and must be a color similar to that of the game jersey as defined by the neutral zone. In addition, the sleeves and neckline of undershirts shall be unaltered (e.g., no cut-off sleeves or cut necklines). Both sleeves shall be of the same length and not extend beyond the elbows. No logos, decorations, trim, commemorative patches, lettering or numbering may be used on an undershirt. The same color must be worn by teammates.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Sadly, I sometimes believe they're telling the truth.

They probably are telling the truth. Just look at them and ask "And you point would be?"

Normally that confuses them so much they just shrug and rectify the situation.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

NCAAM 1-23
Art. 1. An undershirt is considered to be part of the game jersey and must be a color similar to that of the game jersey as defined by the neutral zone. In addition, the sleeves and neckline of undershirts shall be unaltered (e.g., no cut-off sleeves or cut necklines). Both sleeves shall be of the same length and not extend beyond the elbows. No logos, decorations, trim, commemorative patches, lettering or numbering may be used on an undershirt. The same color must be worn by teammates.

Sorry, was reading NFHS rules into your comment.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Sorry, was reading NFHS rules into your comment.

I could have been clearer that I was talking about NCAAM ...

[DRJ1960]

I see the University of Richmond (VA)point guard in highlights all the time with his long sleeves on.....

[stick]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Anyone else see this? About three Texas players had to remove illegal undershirts just before tip-off. They did it at courtside in front of the bench.
(Note: NCAA ruling on jersey removal vs NFHS rule)
Glad that this D1 crew did this as it can only help make it easier on the rest of us. Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

Did the girls in attendance voice their approval? lol

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

What's the deal with players wearing long sleeve undershirts? I've seen it in a few games on TV this season.

On the Men's side, if they have a signed letter from Art Hyland, it's legal.

Had it in back-to-back D3 games last season.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

I see the University of Richmond (VA)point guard in highlights all the time with his long sleeves on.....

A good friend of mine is an assistant coach at U of R. They went thru 5 or 6 games with it not even being mentioned, finally it was caught (I think at ODU). They then went and got a note deeming it "medically necesesary."

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Isn't HC gone now?

Yes...by rule he should have been.

The "player" was technically bench
personnel...it was right before the jump ball to start the game...I was 99.9% sure he was bench personnel...but, not 100%.

I have since checked the book and also put a like scenario on this forum...so I own this rule now.

Note:
The Coach probably wouldn't have been ejected...because after the indirect and the direct...I would have made it clear he would be gone if his AC didn't sit down.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I saw that also and had the exact same thoughts...and all 3 of those guys know better!

It's funny...we just spent more time than most of us thought we needed on this t-shirt issue in our last meeting...

but, there it was...video last night on the local news/sports channel...

a player with a dark t-shirt under a gray jersey.

I will kid with these officials about it...just like a couple did with me on the "bench personnel" issue.

(There is a little truth in all kidding)