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Nevadaref Tue Jan 21, 2014 07:08pm

Undershirt change prior to Kansas St at Texas
 
Anyone else see this? About three Texas players had to remove illegal undershirts just before tip-off. They did it at courtside in front of the bench.
(Note: NCAA ruling on jersey removal vs NFHS rule)
Glad that this D1 crew did this as it can only help make it easier on the rest of us. Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

JetMetFan Tue Jan 21, 2014 07:24pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 919514)
Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

Which is something that won't make it easier on the rest of us :mad:

RookieDude Tue Jan 21, 2014 07:47pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 919514)
Anyone else see this? About three Texas players had to remove illegal undershirts just before tip-off. They did it at courtside in front of the bench.
(Note: NCAA ruling on jersey removal vs NFHS rule)
Glad that this D1 crew did this as it can only help make it easier on the rest of us. Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

....had to whack a player for doing this earlier in the year.

(Partner told player he couldn't play with the illegal undershirt, so player took shirt off immediately, WHACK!...This team had already had 3 players go to the locker room, during warm-ups, for various illegal items)

Visiting Coach went nuts...gave him every opportunity to calm down. He wouldn't, and also insisted that a Home player remove his headband because of a LOGO on it. I assured the Coach the logo was within its limitations. Coach wouldn't believe me...continued on about it...WHACK!

Coach was told he was now seatbelted...so Assistant Coach stood up and TOLD us he was allowed to do this by rule. Actually gave AC at least two opportunities to sit down...he wouldn't...WHACK!

3 T's in first minute of game. A record for me.

I don't like being the "fashion police"...but, since we are tasked with it I try and do it by the book.

Funny this has come up...I am currently watching a H.S. Basketball game on Television...Garfield vs. Franklin...(Teams near the Seattle area...over on the "West" side of the Cascades.)

Good officials working...just wondering why they are letting #5 from Garfield wear a White T-shirt under his Purple (Blue) Jersey?

Thanks guys...now we will be the A$$ holes when we deal with it.:rolleyes:

Nevadaref Tue Jan 21, 2014 08:11pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 919518)
....had to whack a player for doing this earlier in the year.

(Partner told player he couldn't play with the illegal undershirt, so player took shirt off immediately, WHACK!...This team had already had 3 players go to the locker room, during warm-ups, for various illegal items)

Was this a kid who had just checked into the game or was he bench personnel?

The direct and indirect later to the HC make this an important question.

rockyroad Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:28pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 919518)

Funny this has come up...I am currently watching a H.S. Basketball game on Television...Garfield vs. Franklin...(Teams near the Seattle area...over on the "West" side of the Cascades.)

Good officials working...just wondering why they are letting #5 from Garfield wear a White T-shirt under his Purple (Blue) Jersey?

Thanks guys...now we will be the A$$ holes when we deal with it.:rolleyes:

I saw that also and had the exact same thoughts...and all 3 of those guys know better!

johnny d Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:38pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 919514)
Anyone else see this? About three Texas players had to remove illegal undershirts just before tip-off. They did it at courtside in front of the bench.
(Note: NCAA ruling on jersey removal vs NFHS rule)
Glad that this D1 crew did this as it can only help make it easier on the rest of us. Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

There is no NCAA-M rule about removing jersey courtside.

bainsey Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:18am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 919518)
Coach was told he was now seatbelted...so Assistant Coach stood up and TOLD us he was allowed to do this by rule.

Where do they get this stuff?

Nevadaref Wed Jan 22, 2014 04:07am

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 919538)
There is no NCAA-M rule about removing jersey courtside.

Yes, I know. Hence my note.

MD Longhorn Wed Jan 22, 2014 09:09am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 919518)
....had to whack a player for doing this earlier in the year.

(player ..., WHACK!)

Visiting Coach ...WHACK!

Assistant Coach ...WHACK!

Isn't HC gone now?

bob jenkins Wed Jan 22, 2014 09:15am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 919555)
Isn't HC gone now?

Depends on whether the first was on a Player or a Team Member/Bench Personnel.

The OP said player, so ....

zm1283 Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:28am

On the equipment/uniforms topic:

I had a girls JV/V doubleheader on Monday. Before the JV game started, we noticed that two of the home players had white tape on at least one ear. I asked if they had earrings in, and they said they did. I told them if they were going to play they would need to remove them. They did, but told us that they had played all year with the tape on and the coach said at least one official had told them that it was fine in the JV game but not in the varsity game. I told him that they were wrong if they told him that and that they should have done the same thing we did, and he agreed. I don't know why guys won't just take care of this stuff so others don't have to deal with it later.

Adam Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:40am

F/JV double header last night.

In the Freshman game, V had gold uniforms, and one player with a black undershirt, and another player with a white undershirt. H had a player with a blue undershirt. I ensured they all left the court.

Before the JV game, a V player was wearing a two-tone long (primarily black with gray stripes) under a brown uniform.

It's almost the end of January!

JetMetFan Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:14am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 919567)
F/JV double header last night.

In the Freshman game, V had gold uniforms, and one player with a black undershirt, and another player with a white undershirt. H had a player with a blue undershirt. I ensured they all left the court.

Before the JV game, a V player was wearing a two-tone long (primarily black with gray stripes) under a brown uniform.

It's almost the end of January!

Wait for it...

"But ref, I've been doing this all season and no one said anything!"

Raymond Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:24am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 919514)
Anyone else see this? About three Texas players had to remove illegal undershirts just before tip-off. They did it at courtside in front of the bench.
(Note: NCAA ruling on jersey removal vs NFHS rule)
Glad that this D1 crew did this as it can only help make it easier on the rest of us. Stupid announcer criticized it as not something to worry about in the rules.

I've had one supervisor this season send out an email specifically addressing illegal undershirts.

bainsey Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:40am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 919574)
Wait for it...

"But ref, I've been doing this all season and no one said anything!"

Sadly, I sometimes believe they're telling the truth.


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