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Not sure I would have called the I.F., but I can see why it was called. Put together the P.O.E. along with the kinda hug, and in my mind, the case for the I.F. can be made.
As a guy who also does play-by-play for the local high school team on the radio, I am embarrassed by the two clowns on the air. Nothing wrong with being supportive of the team you are covering ... but these bozos are way, way over the top. |
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It looks like he basically hugged the ball handler. But that would be helped by a better angle. Otherwise I am just going to with a regular common foul. I would not care how the player acted while being fouled to determine what type of foul was called.
It is certainly not a "horrible call" as suggested. Might not be a great call, but not horrible. Peace
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Anyone who thinks this is remotely close to intentional is..........
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I happen to think it's excessive contact. But not to the point of an INT. Close? Not really sure. But I don't blame anyone for the thought entering their mind.
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Excessive Contact ...
... and, in some places, it has it's own signal?
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As we all know, fouling at the end of the game is an accepted strategy. Officials should be aware of the time, score, and situation. There is NOTHING here that comes close to intentional. I think the calling official reacted to the kid who as APG said realized he was close to the division line as he jumped then just sort of flopped to get a call. There was absolutely no push whatsoever to cause him to go flying like that and the bear hug talk is ridiculous and silly IMO. |
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The opposing coach does not stand up to immediately signal anything. Two coaches appear to already be standing and signal for an intentional after the player goes on a self induced flight through the air and just about the same time as the official is crossing his arms. And you should expect to be blasted for this comment b/c it's silly. Of course the coach up by 2 at the end of the game wants an intentional. On more than one occasion I've had coaches ask for intentional on late stop the clock fouls and when I've said, "Coach, that wasnt even close" they've responded, "I know but I thought I'd try...." Again, nobody here is questioning the integrity of these officials. I just feel very strongly that judging that play to be intentional is horrific end of game officiating. Absolutely horrific. And I'm surprised that there are even a handful of people here who don't see this as the case. |
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4-19-3-D: An intentional foul is a personal or technical foul that may or may not be premeditated and is not based solely on the severity of the act. Intentional fouls include, but are not limited to: Excessive contact with an opponent while playing the ball. If I were JugglingReferee, I would not describe this play using the words "excessive contact" (better: "illegal contact"), unless he was planning on calling an intentional foul (which I don't believe that he was planning on doing). There are a few coaches, just a few, who actually read, and understand the rulebook. "Hey Mr. JugglingReferee? You said that there was excessive contact but you're not calling a intentional foul? What about 4-19-3-D, that you can see right here in my handy pocket size rulebook? Need your reading glasses? What? Why would you call a technical foul on me for just sticking a page of the rulebook in your face? I haven't gotten a technical foul in over forty years. You're damn right I'm yelling. What? Another one? What? I don't even know where the bus is parked."
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The second foul, on the throw-in after the first one, is definitely intentional. The first one, not so much.
As a side note, it completely irks me that the official waits like 3-4 seconds before signaling anything. That’s part of his problem imo because it makes it look like he is still deciding what to call (whether or not that may truly be the case). Call a regular foul on the first one and you don’t have any of this other nonsense. |
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