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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:57am
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What you guys Think of this? (Video)

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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:18pm
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I think the person who put the video together and the announcers should all be thanked for being fans of HS basketball.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:21pm
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Huh?

Don't exactly have to do a "Rodin" on this one. Not sure what "thinking" needs to be done. Pretty straightforward, merited intentional foul, especially given this year's POE on the topic.

Irrelevant is the intro regarding some "streak" or the other.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:21pm
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I think the person who put the video together and the announcers should all be thanked for being fans of HS basketball.
Yup.

That said, it's a common foul 100 times out of 100.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:33pm
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I don't believe I have ever called such a play/contact as an intentional foul. That, to me, looks like a strategic common foul.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:36pm
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A case can be made for just a common foul and an intentional. It didn't look all that intentional to me and the offensive player embellished a bit at the end. This would (unless it's been done already) rises to the level of contact that after the foul to remind the players to make sure their fouls are basketball related plays.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:41pm
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Hugging the dribbler? Easy intentional. Go for the steal.

BTW.... "Truckers"?
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Yup.

That said, it's a common foul 100 times out of 100.
Agreed...not even close to an intentional foul IMO.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:43pm
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Agreed...not even close to an intentional foul IMO.
Watch the foul and then watch the embellishment. That the official got sucked in by that is unfortunate. It's a garden variety and not particularly hard end of game foul.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:48pm
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The sad part is that a T followed this "incorrect" call. Not excusing the coaches or players (whoever got the T) behavior, but it shows how one call has the ability to change things very drastically. Most likely the T was very well deserved, but the times I have had an intentional foul I have not paused, looked at the player and then made the intentional signal. I have made the intentional signal as soon as my whistle was blown.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:51pm
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Watch the foul and then watch the embellishment. That the official got sucked in by that is unfortunate. It's a garden variety and not particularly hard end of game foul.
I think it's a combination of the dribbler thinking he was closer to half court then he really was and trying to make sure he wouldn't commit a violation...and a bit on embellishment on his part as well. Players will try to fool us from time to time, and it appears he got the official here. Agree, garden variety end-of-game foul here.
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Common foul.

He can make a play on the ball with one hand or both from both sides of the body if he wishes. Will one be a foul definitely but that is risk/reason he is willing to make the play.

There is embellishment. I can't see who/why it gets a T. The reaction makes me think someone let something slip that is basically automatic.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:13pm
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Might part of whether this is intentional or common depend on whether Blue had been "trying to foul" before this?

I'm sure it does vary by area as well.
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Old Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:27pm
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The whole game is here....

go to 1:02.10 to see another intentional foul on the throw-in after the first one...

Boys' Basketball Lorain vs. Norwalk 1-11-14 - YouTube


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I've got a common foul, but I'd hardly say calling it intentional qualifies it as a "horrible" call.
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