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cle2014 Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:57am

What you guys Think of this? (Video)
 
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bob jenkins Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:18pm

I think the person who put the video together and the announcers should all be thanked for being fans of HS basketball.

Freddy Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:21pm

Huh?
 
Don't exactly have to do a "Rodin" on this one. Not sure what "thinking" needs to be done. Pretty straightforward, merited intentional foul, especially given this year's POE on the topic.

Irrelevant is the intro regarding some "streak" or the other.

Rich Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 919244)
I think the person who put the video together and the announcers should all be thanked for being fans of HS basketball.

Yup.

That said, it's a common foul 100 times out of 100.

Camron Rust Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:33pm

I don't believe I have ever called such a play/contact as an intentional foul. That, to me, looks like a strategic common foul.

deecee Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:36pm

A case can be made for just a common foul and an intentional. It didn't look all that intentional to me and the offensive player embellished a bit at the end. This would (unless it's been done already) rises to the level of contact that after the foul to remind the players to make sure their fouls are basketball related plays.

bainsey Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:41pm

Hugging the dribbler? Easy intentional. Go for the steal.

BTW.... "Truckers"?

APG Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 919247)
Yup.

That said, it's a common foul 100 times out of 100.

Agreed...not even close to an intentional foul IMO.

Rich Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 919256)
Agreed...not even close to an intentional foul IMO.

Watch the foul and then watch the embellishment. That the official got sucked in by that is unfortunate. It's a garden variety and not particularly hard end of game foul.

deecee Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:48pm

The sad part is that a T followed this "incorrect" call. Not excusing the coaches or players (whoever got the T) behavior, but it shows how one call has the ability to change things very drastically. Most likely the T was very well deserved, but the times I have had an intentional foul I have not paused, looked at the player and then made the intentional signal. I have made the intentional signal as soon as my whistle was blown.

APG Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 919257)
Watch the foul and then watch the embellishment. That the official got sucked in by that is unfortunate. It's a garden variety and not particularly hard end of game foul.

I think it's a combination of the dribbler thinking he was closer to half court then he really was and trying to make sure he wouldn't commit a violation...and a bit on embellishment on his part as well. Players will try to fool us from time to time, and it appears he got the official here. Agree, garden variety end-of-game foul here.

Pantherdreams Mon Jan 20, 2014 01:08pm

Common foul.

He can make a play on the ball with one hand or both from both sides of the body if he wishes. Will one be a foul definitely but that is risk/reason he is willing to make the play.

There is embellishment. I can't see who/why it gets a T. The reaction makes me think someone let something slip that is basically automatic.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 20, 2014 01:13pm

Might part of whether this is intentional or common depend on whether Blue had been "trying to foul" before this?

I'm sure it does vary by area as well.

asdf Mon Jan 20, 2014 01:27pm

The whole game is here....

go to 1:02.10 to see another intentional foul on the throw-in after the first one...

Boys' Basketball Lorain vs. Norwalk 1-11-14 - YouTube

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Adam Mon Jan 20, 2014 02:04pm

I've got a common foul, but I'd hardly say calling it intentional qualifies it as a "horrible" call.


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