Washington Stanford almost blarge vid request (Clip Added)

[Rob1968]

I really enjoy seeing a crew handle things in this manner. The potential for a mess was there, but they showed great control, and communication.

I don't think this would be a blarge, even if the Lead signalled. They are calling two different actions. A blarge is two officials calling the same action differently. If the Lead does signal charge all Trail has to do is say "first foul" and move on. We can't see what Trail signals but I doubt he signalled anything at all, probably just posted with no preliminary.

[APG]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I don't think this would be a blarge, even if the Lead signalled. They are calling two different actions. A blarge is two officials calling the same action differently. If the Lead does signal charge all Trail has to do is say "first foul" and move on. We can't see what Trail signals but I doubt he signalled anything at all, probably just posted with no preliminary.

By rule, it'd be a false double foul. By practical application, get the first one (which the trail did in taking the call).

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by APG

By rule, it'd be a false double foul. By practical application, get the first one (which the trail did in taking the call).

It wouldn't be a false double foul, because A1's actions would not be flagrant or intentional.

Plus, you can't penalize A1 for being pushed into B2 by B1.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It wouldn't be a false double foul, because A1's actions would not be flagrant or intentional.

Plus, you can't penalize A1 for being pushed into B2 by B1.

1. It could be a false double, the ball is still live since a shot was released.
2. I agree, though, don't punish the shooter for being pushed into an opponent by a different opponent.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It wouldn't be a false double foul, because A1's actions would not be flagrant or intentional.

Plus, you can't penalize A1 for being pushed into B2 by B1.

A1 was fouled by B2 in the act of shooting...ball is live...

Presuming the lead calls a charging foul like it appears he does, you would then have a foul on A1 for charging and thus by rule a false double.

Now as a matter of practical application, I wouldn't imagine calling a foul on A1 for being pushed/bumped into a defender. That I agree.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by APG

A1 was fouled by B2 in the act of shooting...ball is live...

Presuming the lead calls a charging foul like it appears he does, you would then have a foul on A1 for charging and thus by rule a false double.

Now as a matter of practical application, I wouldn't imagine calling a foul on A1 for being pushed/bumped into a defender. That I agree.

Precisely!

Now, I don't really think A1 was pushed into B2 at all. A1 was going to collide with B2 in any case. Still, I would only call the 1st one.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

A blarge is two officials calling the same action differently.

A blarge is most commonly used for fouls by / on the same players.

For a (by-the-rule) FED example of the play in the video, see 4.19.9