Taped out number

[BigT]

I had a GJV game yesterday where a girl whose normal number was 12 had made a X with tape to cross out the 12 and make her number a 1. This isnt AAU or rec ball and I swear I remember reading a post here how that was illegal.

The best I can find is...

Rule: 3-4-3


ART. 3

Numbers shall adhere to the following:

a. Team jerseys shall include the team member's number, which shall be at least 6 inches high on the back and at least 4 inches high on the front and not less than 3/4 inch in width excluding the border.

b. The number(s) shall be centered vertically and horizontally on the portion of the jersey that is intended to be visible.

c. The number(s) on the front and back of the team jersey shall be the same color and style.

d. Each team member shall be numbered on the front and back of the team jersey with plain Arabic numerals. The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. A team member list shall not have both numbers 0 and 00.

e. No more than three colors may be used on the number. The style of the number must be clearly visible and conform to one of the following:

1. A solid contrasting color with no more than two solid color 1/4-inch borders around the entire number. If the team jersey color is used as a border, it must be counted as one of the allowed colors.

2. The team jersey color itself when bordered with not more than two 1/4-inch solid border(s) contrasting with the team jersey color.

3. A solid contrasting color with a "shadow" trim of a contrasting color on part of the number not to exceed 1/2 inch in width and may be used with one 1/4-inch border.

Is this the rule you would use to explain why the jersey is illegal? Would you T up coach? Is it just administrative T? Any advice would be appreciated. Also a few minutes later a player not in the book entered the game. If a T was called on the taped number does 15 get a pass after being put in the book?

[bob jenkins]

Here: JV: Allow it.

YMMV.

[Indianaref]

I would allow it, especially in a jv game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Here: JV: Allow it.

YMMV.

Precisely. Had it last night. Visiting coach asked about it, told him it was ok. Went to the home coach to let him know, and he laughed as he said they had one too.

[BigT]

I had never seen a taped number in 3.3 years of HS so I didnt know it is something we ignored at the sub-varsity level. It seems so rec league'ish so I thought it was unacceptable. Apparently I am over zealous.

[stripes]

In Utah, the directive from the UHSAA is to allow it in sub varsity games.

You are being over zealous.

[jTheUmp]

'round here, we let it go, except in a varsity game.

Most of the bigger schools will have 4 or 5 basketball squads: 9B, 9A, B-squad (10th grade), JV, and Varsity. It's not uncommon for a player to play up one level or down one level for half of one game... so a JV player plays the 1 half of the B-squad game, and both halves of the JV game. At the same time, you might have a 9A player playing half of the B-squad game. So if the 9A player, the JV player, and a regular B-squad player all have #24...

It happens. Coaches are usually pretty good about letting us know about it in advance. As long as I have some way to differentiate players for foul-reporting purposes, I'm ok with it also.

[egj13]

When I was in Montana not only would they allow this but sometimes at the JV level you would have 3 different colors of uniforms on the floor at one time. There were times where...and we will use a green, white and gold school for example...you would have a varsity swing player in their away gold uniform playing next to a JV player in their away green jersey. I used to get a headache every time...

[Raymond]

BigT, that would be a different technical foul in regards to the question at the end of your original post.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BigT

I had a GJV game yesterday

It's JV. Let it go.

[BatteryPowered]

Personally...for JV, I've got nothing. Let her play. For many schools (if not most), sub-varsity teams in every sport use hand-me-downs from the varsity becuase they simply cannot afford to but new uniforms for every team at every level. The only exception I have seen around here is when a new high school opens. That is the only time sub-varsity teams get new uniforms...but to offset the "special treatment" they wear them for a long time...until the school starts playing varisty and that level gets their second round of new uniforms.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigT

Would you T up coach? Is it just administrative T? Any advice would be appreciated. Also a few minutes later a player not in the book entered the game. If a T was called on the taped number does 15 get a pass after being put in the book?

To answer your questions: (without commenting on your specific situation)
The proper penalty for participating while wearing an illegal jersey is a direct technical foul on the Head Coach.
This penalty is completely separate from any administrative technical which would be assessed, such as for having to add a player to the scorebook.
The team should be penalized for both situations should they occur.

[Sharpshooternes]

So everyone here thinks the OP is illegal if it is varsity but not sub? And the rule used is that the number is not centered so it is illegal? What if they turn a 1 into a 31 making the original 1 into the three and adding a 1 at the end. This would be a centered legal number. Then what?

[Sharpshooternes]

Also had a coach last week want to add a player to the book so he could get into the blow out game. He informed my P that he wanted to do it when the other team had possession on FT or a throw in so his team didn't lose possession. It took 3 or four dead balls and a little time off the clock but I thought the coach was smart to do it this way. Never had a planned technical before.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

So everyone here thinks the OP is illegal if it is varsity but not sub? And the rule used is that the number is not centered so it is illegal? What if they turn a 1 into a 31 making the original 1 into the three and adding a 1 at the end. This would be a centered legal number. Then what?

I would not allow the tape job in a V game. Enforce the rule (absent some special circumstances like the FIBA story a few posts ago)