Florida Gulf Coast vs S Florida - 0.3 sec shot

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

It’s mandatory under both NCAA codes. Since they made a call on the court – the 3/10 ruling – in a game-ending situation that determined the outcome of the contest the monitor review rule kicked in. Yeah, I know, by rule it’s not a try because the 3/10s rule exists but the monitor part is on the books (NCAA 11-3-1a.1)

I know that. But isn't that review is to see if it was released before time expired. In this case, it can't be, by rule. The video can't change that. Are they allowed to change the ruling of catch vs. tap?

[APG]

Interesting enough...under NBA rules, they are not allowed to go to the monitor to review a made basket with .2 or .1 on the game or shot clock...even with a made basket with zero's on the clock being a replay trigger.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I know that. But isn't that review is to see if it was released before time expired. In this case, it can't be, by rule. The video can't change that. Are they allowed to change the ruling of catch vs. tap?

Not that I'm aware of. I think it's just one of those editorial things that'll be cleared up. I can't remember a situation exactly like this in the few years monitor use has been mandatory on game-ending shots.

[HokiePaul]

Just curious ... it seems to be the correct call, but isn't the call on the last second shot supposed to be the official opposite the table (either T or C)? Is it different under NCAA rules?

Maybe this is based on association/assignor preference rather than rule, but my understanding is that the L doesn't make the last second shot call (although all officials are expected to have an opinion on these plays in case it needs to be discussed).

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Just curious ... it seems to be the correct call, but isn't the call on the last second shot supposed to be the official opposite the table (either T or C)? Is it different under NCAA rules?

Maybe this is based on association/assignor preference rather than rule, but my understanding is that the L doesn't make the last second shot call (although all officials are expected to have an opinion on these plays in case it needs to be discussed).

In a normal last-shot situation you would be correct. In this case however waving off the shot is not dependant on the judgement of the responsible official, but rather rules knowledge of all the officials. The Lead had the best look at what kind of shot FGCU was taking, and the "responsible" official may not have had the best look. Thus, I think it is fine for the Lead to wave off by rule.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

In a normal last-shot situation you would be correct. In this case however waving off the shot is not dependant on the judgement of the responsible official, but rather rules knowledge of all the officials. The Lead had the best look at what kind of shot FGCU was taking, and the "responsible" official may not have had the best look. Thus, I think it is fine for the Lead to wave off by rule.

Exactly...it's possible they discussed this in pre-game or during the last time-out.

[BryanV21]

Under NFHS rules any official can waive-off a shot, but only the center/trail official opposite the table can count it.

So in this case the lead official is well within his rights to waive-off the shot.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Under NFHS rules any official can waive-off a shot, but only the center/trail official opposite the table can count it.

Reference? I've not heard that before (and I'm pretty sure it's not "under NFHS rules.." )

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Under NFHS rules any official can waive-off a shot, but only the center/trail official opposite the table can count it.

This isn't correct, and whoever is telling you this is delusional. If this statement were true, it would promote/allow 2 or more different officials signaling on the same play at the same time. Theoretically, the center/trail opposite could be counting the basket, while one or both of the other officials could be waving it off. The mechanic on this is simple and straightforward. The official opposite makes the call whether or not to count the field goal, unless the officials on the court decide to do it differently beforehand. Only 1 official should have a signal on this play.

As far as the play in the OP, it doesn't matter who or how many officials wave this shot off. It has nothing to do with the clock. They are simply enforcing the rule that the player cannot catch the ball and score a basket when there is 0.3 or less on the clock. The only time judgment would come into play on this is if there is a debate as to whether or not the player did anything other than tap the ball.

[bob jenkins]

The crew also might change things depending on the specifics. So, for example, if there were .4 left -- the T might have it on a short-pass-long-shot play, the C between the circles and the L on a long-pass-short-shot play (as in the OP)