Mavericks-Timberwolves Final Play

[grunewar]

"It's criminal."

[Indianaref]

I wouldn't mind seeing another angle before I say definite foul.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I wouldn't mind seeing another angle before I say definite foul.

The super-slow mo at :45 shows it well enough for me and confirms the replay from behind. It was a foul. It was missed.

So the more important question is, why was it missed? I would like to think T and L were both watching this play since it was the last second shot. L may have had a better look as it looked like T stepped too far out on the court to maintain his open look and ended up staring at the backside of Marion.

[bob jenkins]

T missed it because he was looking at the feet to see if it was a 3- or a 2-point shot.

Been there; done that.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

T missed it because he was looking at the feet to see if it was a 3- or a 2-point shot.

Been there; done that.

Definitely. But Lead is 5 feet away and misses it. Maybe he's looking at feet too?

[VaTerp]

As a general rule when a player swipes and the ball goes down the benefit of the doubt goes to him hitting the ball.

When he swipes down like that and the ball goes up it's usually a foul.

I think it's close b/c he looks like Marion could have hit the ball and knocked it loose from Love just as he's starting his shooting motion.

But I think they probably should have had a whistle there.

[Adam]

Honestly, looks to me like the ball is already slapped out when the arm contact is made. The timing is close, but the L is right there, looking straight at it. I'm not convinced either way.

[APG]

Originally Posted by MathReferee

The super-slow mo at :45 shows it well enough for me and confirms the replay from behind. It was a foul. It was missed.

So the more important question is, why was it missed? I would like to think T and L were both watching this play since it was the last second shot. L may have had a better look as it looked like T stepped too far out on the court to maintain his open look and ended up staring at the backside of Marion.

I'm pretty sure the the lead (Ed Malloy) just ruled that the defender contacted the hand while it was in contact with the ball.

NBA admits officials missed foul call at end of Minnesota Timberwolves-Dallas Mavericks game

This is really a perfect storm of bad angles. Trail can't see through the defender's back and Lead doesn't want to guess on action that he assumes Trail can see.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

NBA admits officials missed foul call at end of Minnesota Timberwolves-Dallas Mavericks game

This is really a perfect storm of bad angles. Trail can't see through the defender's back and Lead doesn't want to guess on action that he assumes Trail can see.

I'm still not convinced it's a foul, either, despite the PR from the league. Way to throw their officials under the bus.

[Adam]

Seems to me the L has a great view on the contact. In regular speed, it looks like a foul to me. In slow speed, I think otherwise.

I'm not surprised the NBA wants this called a foul, though.

I should add I appreciate Love's reaction in the clip. Just smile and move on, calls get missed. Contrast that with Tom Brady's meltdown after they lost to the Panthers on a play he admitted he didn't even see.

Also, I agree with Rich. I don't like when the league (in any sport) announces missed judgment calls.

Originally Posted by Adam

Contrast that with Tom Brady's meltdown after they lost to the Panthers on a play he admitted he didn't even see.

Yeah cuz if Love does that he gets fined 100k+. Brady got nothing.

[Camron Rust]

Only thing I can see for certain in the video is Marion hitting Love's hand...which is not a foul when it is in contact with the ball. He may have hit the arm, but that isn't clear from the video.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Only think I can see for certain in the video is Marion hitting Love's hand...which is not a foul when it is in contact with the ball. He may have hit the arm, but that isn't clear from the video.

I'm not even sure why that's the rule -- cause people want a foul called even if it's just the hand hit. I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA watched the slo-mo, saw the hand hit, and said "that was a foul."