Contacts and shoe laces

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by frezer11

You were talking about your partner throwing you under the bus, and maybe he/she did, I don't know exactly the posture or body language that they displayed while holding up play. But regardless, I think your comment of "Because they don't know the rules," is completely unneccessary. That's the type of comment that throws all other officials under the bus. A quick statement or comment about not while the ball is live or whatever might be ok, but certainly not a comment that makes other referees look bad!! That's why I think its pretty hypocritical of you to be upset over your partner's actions at the next dead ball.

Very valid point and I agree that my comment was not appropriate. I did approach the coach at half time to explain why I didn't stop play (the ball was live). he was OK with it then.

[Ky ref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Had both happen in back to back games with the same teams (soph. then JV). Had a player who had a displaced contact just before shooting FTs. She requested a TO to correct the situation and had it fixed easily within 30 seconds. My question is, how much time do they have to correct the situation on an uncharged timeout. Does it ever become a charged TO?

In the second game, thrower in-er A1 has the ball at their disposal. B1 requests to stop play so she can tie her shoe. I deny the request and allow play to continue. Varsity coach in the end of the bench is chiding me that "it's a liability for injury." "How come all the other officials stop play?" My reply was because they don't know the rules.

At the next dead ball, coach says, "Go ahead and tie your shoe." Partner sounds his whistle, puts his hand in the air and stands over her and politely watches as she ties her shoe. Coach sarcastically says "thank you!!!!!" In mind I am saying to my partner, "thanks for throwing me under the bus." We discussed it after and he claims he didn't hear any of the exchange beforehand even thought thee were only 50 people in the gym.

I am all for delaying putting the ball into play for a couple seconds for someone to tie their shoe but I wasn't about to blow it dead for the defensive team. Any other thoughts on how to handle this situation?

Issue was after a made basket.Clock running and player out of bound decide to tie shoe.I continue the 5 count the coach was totally upset and call time out.It is a live ball to stop the game will be advantage to his team,ithere is no rule and stopping the game other than injury or blood.Players need to be ready and double tie shoes.Laibility next they will tie shoes late in game cause team has no timeout.Partner was wrong and he need to know the rules

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ky ref

Issue was after a made basket.Clock running and player out of bound decide to tie shoe.I continue the 5 count the coach was totally upset and call time out.It is a live ball to stop the game will be advantage to his team,ithere is no rule and stopping the game other than injury or blood.Players need to be ready and double tie shoes.Laibility next they will tie shoes late in game cause team has no timeout.Partner was wrong and he need to know the rules

Partner was fine here, except for the whistle perhaps. Most of us will delay a dead ball (hold up a spot throw in) while a player ties his shoe.

Once.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Ky ref

Issue was after a made basket.Clock running and player out of bound decide to tie shoe.I continue the 5 count the coach was totally upset and call time out.It is a live ball to stop the game will be advantage to his team,ithere is no rule and stopping the game other than injury or blood.Players need to be ready and double tie shoes.Laibility next they will tie shoes late in game cause team has no timeout.Partner was wrong and he need to know the rules

I'm stopping play right here and letting them tie the shoe. I have done it and no coach has ever complained. All you have to do is tell the coach it is for safety purposes. However slim a chane it is someone will actually get hurt.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I'm stopping play right here and letting them tie the shoe. I have done it and no coach has ever complained. All you have to do is tell the coach it is for safety purposes. However slim a chane it is someone will actually get hurt.

If I have to stop the clock for an untied shoe, I'm likely to require a sub.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

"How come all the other officials stop play?" My reply was because they don't know the rules.

At the next dead ball, coach says, "Go ahead and tie your shoe." Partner sounds his whistle, puts his hand in the air and stands over her and politely watches as she ties her shoe. Coach sarcastically says "thank you!!!!!" In mind I am saying to my partner, "thanks for throwing me under the bus." We discussed it after and he claims he didn't hear any of the exchange beforehand even thought thee were only 50 people in the gym.

Who threw who under the bus? Your first exchange with the coach seems to indicate you threw your whole association under the bus. Some partner you are!!

[JRutledge]

In a college game this past week, I had a coach wanted me to stop play for untied shoe early in the game. I told the coach, "If a player cannot tie a shoe at this level, we have bigger problems." Well my partner did stop play, but he waited until the coach whose team had the ball after a made basket. Apparently my partner told the coach he would not stop play until his team had the ball. I was just shocked that a college coach even wanted this addressed and acted like something bad could happen if someone stepped on his shoe lace. Has he not watched many games where players have thrown their shoes into the stands to keep playing?

Peace

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Who threw who under the bus? Your first exchange with the coach seems to indicate you threw your whole association under the bus. Some partner you are!!

Yep. I was wrong to say that.