Whistle at first horn

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Adam

This is how we do it. Even if I start my report early, I hold off on starting the clock until both teams have had ample opportunity to get to their benches. I won't wait for the lollygaggers, but that's rare and the coach normally deals with Johnny C. Lately.

Same thing as long as I can remember too.

[Sharpshooternes]

Had a euro professional league official give me a pointer about this very thing this week. He suggested that after a timeout is requested and granted, that the partners get together quickly and determine who's ball it is where the ball will come in at. THEN report the timeout and start the timer. I tried it this week and I rally like it. By time you finish your pow wow with the P, both teams have had sufficient time to get into their huddles. I like the whistle suggestion and will try it this week.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Had a euro professional league official give me a pointer about this very thing this week. He suggested that after a timeout is requested and granted, that the partners get together quickly and determine who's ball it is where the ball will come in at. THEN report the timeout and start the timer. I tried it this week and I rally like it. By time you finish your pow wow with the P, both teams have had sufficient time to get into their huddles. I like the whistle suggestion and will try it this week.

Officials (all) need to know the length of the TO and where and how (spot, run, FT -- including number and the shooter) the ball will be put back in play. You can do that with eye contact -- you don't need to get together.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Officials (all) need to know the length of the TO and where and how (spot, run, FT -- including number and the shooter) the ball will be put back in play. You can do that with eye contact -- you don't need to get together.

Yeah what Bob said. I didn't mean physically get together in a huddle but just communicate the information before reporting the TO, not after during the TO.

[Rich]

I don't start the clock until everyone's in the huddle.

Usually, I'll get an assistant's attention and point out the throw-in spot (and if it's on the end line in the backcourt whether the thrower-in can run the end line).

Take a few extra seconds at the beginning of the time out and you won't have to rush teams as much at the end.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't start the clock until everyone's in the huddle.

Yep...more or less...at least near the huddle.

Originally Posted by Rich

Guess what -- huddles start breaking when they hear the whistle much more effectively than when we come in simply saying, "First horn."

Hmmmmmm....kinda like "crying wolf isn't it?"

Usually a whistle means ball is ready for play (after a TO)...not excactly true in this case, since the team still has 15 seconds left of their TO.

It's no wonder the "huddles start breaking when they hear the whistle"...but, hasn't your crew just shorted the team the benefit of a full TO?

I guess if your whole association is doing it this way...it's consistent.

But, maybe the teams in your association are going to get spoiled with these whisltes and are getting set up for failure when they go outside of your service area.

Just a thought.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Yep...more or less...at least near the huddle.



Hmmmmmm....kinda like "crying wolf isn't it?"

Usually a whistle means ball is ready for play (after a TO)...not excactly true in this case, since the team still has 15 seconds left of their TO.

It's no wonder the "huddles start breaking when they hear the whistle"...but, hasn't your crew just shorted the team the benefit of a full TO?

I guess if your whole association is doing it this way...it's consistent.

But, maybe the teams in your association are going to get spoiled with these whisltes and are getting set up for failure when they go outside of your service area.

Just a thought.

Interesting, this question came up at our association meeting and the interpretation we were told is that coaches should be breaking the huddle at 15 seconds and play will resume at the second horn. I am kind of torn on the issue as I feel as long as the huddle is breaking at the second horn and team s are moving to their spots, that is good for me. They get to use their full time and the game gets back under way quickly.

[#olderthanilook]

I have the same reporting philosophy when reporting time outs to the table as Freddy. And, I transfer that philosophy to football, as well.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Yep...more or less...at least near the huddle.



Hmmmmmm....kinda like "crying wolf isn't it?"

Usually a whistle means ball is ready for play (after a TO)...not excactly true in this case, since the team still has 15 seconds left of their TO.

It's no wonder the "huddles start breaking when they hear the whistle"...but, hasn't your crew just shorted the team the benefit of a full TO?

I guess if your whole association is doing it this way...it's consistent.

But, maybe the teams in your association are going to get spoiled with these whisltes and are getting set up for failure when they go outside of your service area.

Just a thought.

They should be breaking at 15 seconds, or getting ready to, anyway.

The odds of me putting a ball on the floor are about zero, but I'm going to do my best to keep everyone moving.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Yep...more or less...at least near the huddle.



Hmmmmmm....kinda like "crying wolf isn't it?"

Usually a whistle means ball is ready for play (after a TO)...not excactly true in this case, since the team still has 15 seconds left of their TO.

It's no wonder the "huddles start breaking when they hear the whistle"...but, hasn't your crew just shorted the team the benefit of a full TO?

I guess if your whole association is doing it this way...it's consistent.

But, maybe the teams in your association are going to get spoiled with these whisltes and are getting set up for failure when they go outside of your service area.

Just a thought.

Rookie Dude:

I am with holding comment per the "whistle at first horn" but a team does not have 15 seconds more to its TO. Both teams are to be ready to play by the second horn.

MTD, Sr.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Had a euro professional league official give me a pointer about this very thing this week. He suggested that after a timeout is requested and granted, that the partners get together quickly and determine who's ball it is where the ball will come in at. THEN report the timeout and start the timer. I tried it this week and I rally like it. By time you finish your pow wow with the P, both teams have had sufficient time to get into their huddles. I like the whistle suggestion and will try it this week.

Been doing that for years without the "coming together" part. I look to my parnters to confirm the throw-in spot and advise them of the length before reporting to the table. Re-confirm throw-in spot as I head to my time-out position.