Long Distance Call

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

In our area, where all Varsity officials are expected to come early and evaluate the sub-varsity officials, such a call, as in the OP, will be a topic of the evaluation, and definitely in a negative manner.
This year, I've opened my early afternoons to work more sub-varsity games w/newer, younger officials, at the request of our assignor. Last week, late in a game with a first year,/first HS game official, he made such a call, and the call was wrong. I addressed the situation by saying, "You would have to do something really terrible to upset me, as a partner, which this was not. You may have 99 good call/no-call's in a game and the one - "across the key, out-of-your-area, on-top-of-your-partner" call will be the only thing the evaluator will focus on."
The local mind-set is that to make such a call, it must be a sportsmanship or safety issue, or a game-saver, and/or crew-saver.

Oh, I agree.

Originally Posted by Rich

Your "confusion" is making me laugh.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Your "confusion" is making me laugh.

I was afraid Adam had been hacked, or had an evil twin.

[RookieDude]

2nd Year Official doing Boys Varsity? WOW!

This post got me thinking...HOW rare is it that a 2nd Year Official could even be ready for a Varsity contest?

Example:

Rarer than a four leaf clover?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

2nd Year Official doing Boys Varsity? WOW!

This post got me thinking...HOW rare is it that a 2nd Year Official could even be ready for a Varsity contest?

Example:

Rarer than a four leaf clover?

Sometimes people think they're ready when they're really not. What's odd about that is that you don't really know that you're not ready then until you are...sometimes years later.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Rich

Sometimes people think they're ready when they're really not. What's odd about that is that you don't really know that you're not ready then until you are...sometimes years later.

True...

and I believe if you get that call to do Varsity...

you had better be ready.

If you are not ready (rules knowledge, court presence, mechanics, etc.) it can really hurt your advancement. You may get there eventually...but, it usually slows down your climb compared to if you were more prepared to start with.

Moral of Story: Be Patient! Be Prepared! Be Ready!

[egj13]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

2nd Year Official doing Boys Varsity? WOW!

Here in my neck of the woods we put first year officials in varsity contests...when I say "we" I mean my pool of course of which I have zero input in decisions.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by egj13

Here in my neck of the woods we put first year officials in varsity contests...when I say "we" I mean my pool of course of which I have zero input in decisions.

No way they are ready!!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I was afraid Adam had been hacked, or had an evil twin.

I am often my own evil twin.

[jTheUmp]

Quote from Bill Lemonnier (Big 10 Football Referee, retiring after this season):
Fish in my pond if you have to, just make sure you catch a big fish.

[rpirtle]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Quote from Bill Lemonnier (Big 10 Football Referee, retiring after this season):
Fish in my pond if you have to, just make sure you catch a big fish.

I like this. I will endeavor to give you and Bill the appropriate credit when I plagiarize the crud out if it.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Adam

I thought the goal was to get the right call regardless of WHERE the call is made.

Last year I had a partner attempt to use this line of reasoning to call a hand check just after the dribbler crossed the mid court line. He was lead. I was trail. This guy never got it. He had officiated someplace else for the past 5 years. He's not working with us this year. We don't miss him.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Last year I had a partner attempt to use this line of reasoning to call a hand check just after the dribbler crossed the mid court line. He was lead. I was trail. This guy never got it. He had officiated someplace else for the past 5 years. He's not working with us this year. We don't miss him.

We have posters who regularly spout this line of reasoning in discussions on this discussion board; but when it's their pond being poached....

[constable]

Meh this doesn't sound so bad- especially for a 2nd year guy.

A few years ago I had a partner who has been around 30 years (30 to many) call a travel 6 feet in front of me on the low block. He's trail. I'm lead. Kid does not travel and I hear tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet travel.

I take a deep breath and put the ball back in play. Then this guy whack's the coach because the coach is justifiably pissed. I asked him at the quarter break why he called a travel that wasn't a travel. He tells me that travels in the key are the trails call.

It was a long night.

Originally Posted by constable

He tells me that travels in the key are the trails call.

Well he is right. When there is post play Trail is responsible for the travel. Not saying there was a travel but he is not wrong to call it if he sees it.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Well he is right. When there is post play Trail is responsible for the travel. Not saying there was a travel but he is not wrong to call it if he sees it.

One of my weak points in my basketball officiating... If I'm the lead, and there's a post player in my area with the ball, and she travels... I'll only notice the travel about 15% of the time. I'm watching upper body contact, looking for traveling violations in that situation is something I'm not very good at yet.

I always tell my partners that if they call a travel on a post player when I'm lead... I'm totally ok with it.