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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 01:44am
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Long Distance Call

Tonight, BV, 2 man. I'm trail, A1 working one on one against pressure applied by B1 at the division line near my sideline. There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go, and then I heard the whistle. Partner, from his proper position as lead, across the lane from the play on the endline, had his fist up.

SURELY HE'S GOT SOMETHING OVER THERE, OFF-BALL

Then he put his hand behind his head.

SURELY HE MEANS TEAM CONTROL, BUT MADE THAT SIGNAL BY MISTAKE

Nope. Player control on A1. Going the other way. I was told that my annoyance was obvious to everyone.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 02:44am
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pressure applied by B1....There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go....
Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:12am
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Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?

Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:19am
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Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.
Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:35am
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Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?

You tell me. Is it possible to make a call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:42am
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You tell me. Is it possible to make a [correct] call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?
Well he did make a call :P, I think you mean correct call. And while he is definitely not focusing on his primary and trusting you, I have yet to hear you say his call was wrong....just really, really, really far away.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:48am
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Well he did make a call :P, I think you mean correct call. And while he is definitely not focusing on his primary and trusting you, I have yet to hear you say his call was wrong....just really, really, really far away.
I obviously didn't think it was correct or I would have called it myself.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:54am
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I obviously didn't think it was correct or I would have called it myself.
Aside from that call, how was your partner otherwise?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 03:59am
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Aside from that call, how was your partner otherwise?
So-so. In his defense, he's a second year guy who had never called anything before last year. He doesn't need to be thrown in the varsity fire at this point, but our assignment system is, uh, interesting.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:04am
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Was he receptive to the oh-so-tactful discussion you had with him about the call?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:09am
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Was he receptive to the oh-so-tactful discussion you had with him about the call?
very much so
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:11am
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had never called anything before last year.
Sorry....do you mean he rarely called fouls and violations during his games, or had never called the level of game you were working?
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:14am
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very much so
At least he gets it. I work with other veterans who haven't quite figured out that part of things yet.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 04:34am
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Sorry....do you mean he rarely called fouls and violations during his games, or had never called the level of game you were working?
I mean he had never owned a whistle before last year.
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Old Wed Dec 04, 2013, 08:08am
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Geesh

Ball watching maybe how as he the rest of the game???
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