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just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 01:44am

Long Distance Call
 
Tonight, BV, 2 man. I'm trail, A1 working one on one against pressure applied by B1 at the division line near my sideline. There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go, and then I heard the whistle. Partner, from his proper position as lead, across the lane from the play on the endline, had his fist up.

SURELY HE'S GOT SOMETHING OVER THERE, OFF-BALL

Then he put his hand behind his head.

SURELY HE MEANS TEAM CONTROL, BUT MADE THAT SIGNAL BY MISTAKE

Nope. Player control on A1. Going the other way. I was told that my annoyance was obvious to everyone.

AremRed Wed Dec 04, 2013 02:44am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912728)
pressure applied by B1....There was a significant amount of body contact but A1 was about to turn the corner and come free so I let it go....

Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:12am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 912731)
Body contact by who? The way you write it seems like the only foul to be called is a block on B1.

Did you ask your partner what he saw?


Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.

AremRed Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:19am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912733)
Sure did. He said the dribbler hooked him with his elbow to get around.

Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:35am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 912734)
Your post mentions long-distance calling and your annoyance, but was he right?


You tell me. Is it possible to make a call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?

AremRed Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:42am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912735)
You tell me. Is it possible to make a [correct] call 40 feet across the court which is 6 feet in front of your partner while the other 8 players between you and the matchup mind their own business?

Well he did make a call :P, I think you mean correct call. And while he is definitely not focusing on his primary and trusting you, I have yet to hear you say his call was wrong....just really, really, really far away.

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:48am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 912738)
Well he did make a call :P, I think you mean correct call. And while he is definitely not focusing on his primary and trusting you, I have yet to hear you say his call was wrong....just really, really, really far away.

I obviously didn't think it was correct or I would have called it myself.

AremRed Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:54am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912739)
I obviously didn't think it was correct or I would have called it myself.

Aside from that call, how was your partner otherwise?

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 03:59am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 912741)
Aside from that call, how was your partner otherwise?

So-so. In his defense, he's a second year guy who had never called anything before last year. He doesn't need to be thrown in the varsity fire at this point, but our assignment system is, uh, interesting.

JetMetFan Wed Dec 04, 2013 04:04am

Was he receptive to the oh-so-tactful discussion you had with him about the call? :)

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 04:09am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 912744)
Was he receptive to the oh-so-tactful discussion you had with him about the call? :)

very much so

AremRed Wed Dec 04, 2013 04:11am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912743)
had never called anything before last year.

Sorry....do you mean he rarely called fouls and violations during his games, or had never called the level of game you were working?

JetMetFan Wed Dec 04, 2013 04:14am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 912745)
very much so

At least he gets it. I work with other veterans who haven't quite figured out that part of things yet.

just another ref Wed Dec 04, 2013 04:34am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 912747)
Sorry....do you mean he rarely called fouls and violations during his games, or had never called the level of game you were working?

I mean he had never owned a whistle before last year.

dee33 Wed Dec 04, 2013 08:08am

Geesh
 
Ball watching maybe how as he the rest of the game???


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