Long Distance Call

[constable]

Meh this doesn't sound so bad- especially for a 2nd year guy.

A few years ago I had a partner who has been around 30 years (30 to many) call a travel 6 feet in front of me on the low block. He's trail. I'm lead. Kid does not travel and I hear tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet travel.

I take a deep breath and put the ball back in play. Then this guy whack's the coach because the coach is justifiably pissed. I asked him at the quarter break why he called a travel that wasn't a travel. He tells me that travels in the key are the trails call.

It was a long night.

Originally Posted by constable

He tells me that travels in the key are the trails call.

Well he is right. When there is post play Trail is responsible for the travel. Not saying there was a travel but he is not wrong to call it if he sees it.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Well he is right. When there is post play Trail is responsible for the travel. Not saying there was a travel but he is not wrong to call it if he sees it.

One of my weak points in my basketball officiating... If I'm the lead, and there's a post player in my area with the ball, and she travels... I'll only notice the travel about 15% of the time. I'm watching upper body contact, looking for traveling violations in that situation is something I'm not very good at yet.

I always tell my partners that if they call a travel on a post player when I'm lead... I'm totally ok with it.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

One of my weak points in my basketball officiating... If I'm the lead, and there's a post player in my area with the ball, and she travels... I'll only notice the travel about 15% of the time. I'm watching upper body contact, looking for traveling violations in that situation is something I'm not very good at yet.

I always tell my partners that if they call a travel on a post player when I'm lead... I'm totally ok with it.

While you'll never be able to see them all from the lead, you'll see a lot more if you take 1-2 steps back from the play...either away from the endline or away from the lane. Doing so will give you a much better view of the players from head-to-toe and it might even improve your ability to see some types of fouls too.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While you'll never be able to see them all from the lead, you'll see a lot more if you take 1-2 steps back from the play...either away from the endline or away from the lane. Doing so will give you a much better view of the players from head-to-toe and it might even improve your ability to see some types of fouls too.

I'd like to introduce you to some of our smaller, older gyms. "Back up" would mean "climb the wall."

Where I have room, I work D-E-E-P. Sometimes, you just do the best you can, and that includes the T/C helping out with travels down low or in the lane.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'd like to introduce you to some of our smaller, older gyms. "Back up" would mean "climb the wall."

Where I have room, I work D-E-E-P. Sometimes, you just do the best you can, and that includes the T/C helping out with travels down low or in the lane.

I do the same thing, when I can. But in about half of the gyms around here there's less than 10 feet from endline to wall, sometimes as little as 4 feet.

When I have space, it's not uncommon for me to be 15 feet off the endline as the lead.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

When I have space, it's not uncommon for me to be 15 feet off the endline as the lead.

Really? I hope this is an exaggeration. If not, you need to reconsider your philosophy. I understand moving back to get a better angle, but once you are past 6-8 feet you stop improving your angle and start putting yourself in a worse position.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While you'll never be able to see them all from the lead, you'll see a lot more if you take 1-2 steps back from the play...either away from the endline or away from the lane. Doing so will give you a much better view of the players from head-to-toe and it might even improve your ability to see some types of fouls too.

Originally Posted by Rich

I'd like to introduce you to some of our smaller, older gyms. "Back up" would mean "climb the wall."

Where I have room, I work D-E-E-P. Sometimes, you just do the best you can, and that includes the T/C helping out with travels down low or in the lane.

Which is why I included..."either away from the endline or away from the lane."

Staying close to the lane when you have no room to back up is a horrible place to be for plays at the basket.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Which is why I included..."either away from the endline or away from the lane."

Staying close to the lane when you have no room to back up is a horrible place to be for plays at the basket.

Away from the lane is a mixed bag. Gives a great look, but then the ball gets thrown inside and you're straight lined or blocked by two players between you and where the pass is going.

I love going places with a lot of room. And I agree with something else said -- I'm probably never more than 8 feet off the end line. But I do get a bit deeper in 2-person than I do in 3-person.