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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:36pm
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Held Ball?

Hey yall, it's been awhile

Interesting debate came up last night at a meeting...

A1 is standing out of bounds for a designated spot, non-AP throw in. He holds the ball over the boundary, and B1 grabs it and neither can wrestle it away from the other.

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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:45pm
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 12:51pm
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I got a question.

How does this turn into a long debate?
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:05pm
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How does this turn into a long debate?
There are some forum members who are going to be offended by these answers.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:11pm
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Held ball.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:33pm
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The group couldn't decide if it was a violation or not.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:40pm
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The group couldn't decide if it was a violation or not.
Well technically it is a violation considering this is a held ball. I hope they were not trying to suggest that this was a technical foul.

Does this group have trainers or rules people that can look this up?

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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:45pm
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Well technically it is a violation considering this is a held ball. I hope they were not trying to suggest that this was a technical foul.

Does this group have trainers or rules people that can look this up?

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I meant an out of bounds violation. Someone suggested it was an out of bounds violation, but I think they were just guessing.

No...there definitely was no technical foul discussion related to this play. The rulebooks were out, though, as were the casebooks. I don't think anyone ever found a definitive answer.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 04:49pm
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Well technically it is a violation considering this is a held ball. I hope they were not trying to suggest that this was a technical foul.

Does this group have trainers or rules people that can look this up?

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Well, technically, it isn't. A held ball is just a held ball, not a violation. This is just a held ball, throwin to the team with the arrow.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:17pm
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Hey yall, it's been awhile
Interesting debate came up last night at a meeting...
A1 is standing out of bounds for a designated spot, non-AP throw in. He holds the ball over the boundary, and B1 grabs it and neither can wrestle it away from the other.
What do ya got?
Welcome back.
What were you doing at a coaches' meeting?
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:19pm
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Held Ball On Throw-In

Slight tweak-with a AP throw in:

NFHS Casebook, Page 54: 6.4.5 SITUATION B: During an alternating-possession throw-in, thrower A1 holds the ball through the end-line plane and B1 grabs it, resulting in a held ball. RULING: Since the throw-in had not ended and no violation occurred, it is still A's ball for an alternating-possession throw-in (4-42-5).
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:32pm
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7.6.4 Situation F
Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline
plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1
cannot pull it back. RULING: A held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession
throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in,
Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.
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Old Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:51pm
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Welcome back.
What were you doing at a coaches' meeting?
Badum-tssss

How's the veal?

And thanks...I missed all of last season while acclimating to a new job in a new city. Itching to get back at it.
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