Held Ball?
 

Hey yall, it's been awhile

Interesting debate came up last night at a meeting...

A1 is standing out of bounds for a designated spot, non-AP throw in. He holds the ball over the boundary, and B1 grabs it and neither can wrestle it away from the other.

What do ya got?

7.6.4 Situation F

I got a question.

How does this turn into a long debate?

There are some forum members who are going to be offended by these answers.

Oh, right. Hang on.

There, better? :)

The group couldn't decide if it was a violation or not.

Well technically it is a violation considering this is a held ball. I hope they were not trying to suggest that this was a technical foul.

Does this group have trainers or rules people that can look this up?

Peace

I meant an out of bounds violation. Someone suggested it was an out of bounds violation, but I think they were just guessing.

No...there definitely was no technical foul discussion related to this play. The rulebooks were out, though, as were the casebooks. I don't think anyone ever found a definitive answer.

Well, technically, it isn't. A held ball is just a held ball, not a violation. This is just a held ball, throwin to the team with the arrow.

Couldn't Have Been at an Officials' Meeting
 

Welcome back.
What were you doing at a coaches' meeting? :confused:

Held Ball On Throw-In
 

Slight tweak-with a AP throw in:

NFHS Casebook, Page 54: 6.4.5 SITUATION B: During an alternating-possession throw-in, thrower A1 holds the ball through the end-line plane and B1 grabs it, resulting in a held ball. RULING: Since the throw-in had not ended and no violation occurred, it is still A's ball for an alternating-possession throw-in (4-42-5).

For Your Viewing Pleasure ...
 

Thrower A1 inadvertently holds the ball through the endline
plane during a throw-in. B1 is able to get his/her hands on the ball and A1
cannot pull it back. RULING: A held ball is called, resulting in an alternating-possession
throw-in. If the original throw-in is an alternating-possession throw-in,
Team A still has the arrow following the held ball.

Badum-tssss

How's the veal?

And thanks...I missed all of last season while acclimating to a new job in a new city. Itching to get back at it.