End of game foul

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by APG

It's not fair for the shooter to have his shot taken away because the official is a little late on his whistle, or the timer is a little late on stopping the clock and the officials don't have definite knowledge to correct anything.. In this case, I would rather reward the player that made a shot despite illegal contact, rather than worry about any hypothetical chance for Team B to get to score.

Disagree. No one took away the player's shot. The game at this level is played with the understanding that officials are always going to be a little late sounding the whistle following contact and the scoreboard person is always going to be a little late following the whistle. Instant replay is not an option (in most states) and even if it were, it would show there could be more than just a miniscule amount of time remaining that would be put back on the clock. That would give the opponent their fair chances. And some of those chances are not all that hypothetical. Goofy things can and do happen at any level of play. If I were the coach of that team, I would believe my players deserve that chance and I think you would as well.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by billyu2

No one took away the player's shot.

Actually what is taken away is a field goal, which was taken after being fouled with time on the clock. APG is saying, and I agree, that taking these points off the board is much worse than denying the opponent an opportunity to go the length of the court in one or two tenths.

[APG]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Disagree. No one took away the player's shot. The game at this level is played with the understanding that officials are always going to be a little late sounding the whistle following contact and the scoreboard person is always going to be a little late following the whistle. Instant replay is not an option (in most states) and even if it were, it would show there could be more than just a miniscule amount of time remaining that would be put back on the clock. That would give the opponent their fair chances. And some of those chances are not all that hypothetical. Goofy things can and do happen at any level of play. If I were the coach of that team, I would believe my players deserve that chance and I think you would as well.

But you are taking away the successful field goal that at any other point in the game would count. Now there are justifiable reasons for the clock technically not stopping precisely as it should...there's always going to be some lag time with the timer...there will be some lag time between foul and whistle...but it still doesn't take away the fact that a field goal that would and should count otherwise is taken away.

Again, I'm not worried about the chances of a team to try and score a basket with .3 or whatever seconds. Could something happen? Sure...but I'm not concerned with that 2 percent scenario that could happen. I'm more concerned with rewarding what JUST happen...the player for making a field goal even with illegal contact.