Airborne Shooter purposely drops ball

[ewitt]

Airborne shooter thinking shot will be blocked, purposely drops the ball while at the height of his jump without attempting a shooting motion.

Loose Ball or Double Dribble? Any Why?

[maven]

Generally a travel. Once the pivot is lifted, the ball must be released on a pass or a try. 4-44-3,4

By definition, a player cannot pass to himself. 4-31-1

He's airborne, but not a shooter unless he releases the ball for a try.

[Adam]

I'm not calling anything unless he's the first to touch it after he "passes" it.

[OKREF]

Travel. Even think there is a case play about this very thing.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Travel. Even think there is a case play about this very thing.

4.44.3B

I agree with Adam that I won't call anything unless s/he is the first to touch the ball.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

4.44.3B

I agree with Adam that I won't call anything unless s/he is the first to touch the ball.

I agree. Not an automatic whistle. He must touch the ball first.

[potato]

Isn't there a rule that states a player cannot be the 1st to touch his own airball even if it is a shooting attempt? Was it NBA?

Originally Posted by maven

Generally a travel. Once the pivot is lifted, the ball must be released on a pass or a try. 4-44-3,4

By definition, a player cannot pass to himself. 4-31-1

He's airborne, but not a shooter unless he releases the ball for a try.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by potato

Isn't there a rule that states a player cannot be the 1st to touch his own airball even if it is a shooting attempt? Was it NBA?

It's the NBA, and only the NBA.

[just another ref]

Okay, we made this into a word game, which was not beneficial to the discussion. I think this is all about intent at the time of the release, just as it is when the player is fouled. A1 dropped the ball because he knew he couldn't return to the floor with it. It wasn't a try. It wasn't a fumble. And unless there is a teammate right next to him to pick it up, I can't call it a pass. By default, it is a dribble.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

... intent ... A1 dropped the ball because he knew he couldn't return to the floor with it.

Are you guessing, or did you ask him? Or, did you read his mind?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, we made this into a word game, which was not beneficial to the discussion. I think this is all about intent at the time of the release, just as it is when the player is fouled. A1 dropped the ball because he knew he couldn't return to the floor with it. It wasn't a try. It wasn't a fumble. And unless there is a teammate right next to him to pick it up, I can't call it a pass. By default, it is a dribble.

I think it's something that can't yet be determined, as opposed to defaulting to "it must be a dribble".

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Okay, we made this into a word game, which was not beneficial to the discussion. I think this is all about intent at the time of the release, just as it is when the player is fouled. A1 dropped the ball because he knew he couldn't return to the floor with it. It wasn't a try. It wasn't a fumble. And unless there is a teammate right next to him to pick it up, I can't call it a pass. By default, it is a dribble.

By definition, though, it's not. At this moment in time, it's none of the above. Until we see who touches it next, it's status is not yet known, and thus this is not yet a violation.