Airborne Shooter purposely drops ball
Airborne shooter thinking shot will be blocked, purposely drops the ball while at the height of his jump without attempting a shooting motion.
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Generally a travel. Once the pivot is lifted, the ball must be released on a pass or a try. 4-44-3,4
By definition, a player cannot pass to himself. 4-31-1 He's airborne, but not a shooter unless he releases the ball for a try. |
I'm not calling anything unless he's the first to touch it after he "passes" it.
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Travel. Even think there is a case play about this very thing.
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I agree with Adam that I won't call anything unless s/he is the first to touch the ball. |
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Who You Gonna Call ???
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The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor. |
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Yep. Dropping the ball in that situation effectively turns the play into a pass. There’s no violation unless A1 is the first to touch the ball.
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If no one eventually touches it, the dropping the ball actually was the start of another dribble and that was the point of the violation....not the subsequent touch. However, when it is such that it may be a pass or may be a dribble, we traditionally wait until the next touch to confirm what action it was.
In a few cases, it might be so obvious that the official would not need to wait to determine that it was released for a dribble. |
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The definition of a pass includes the phrase: "to another player". If there is no other player in the vicinity, and the ball is dropped straight to the floor, to me it is not a pass. |
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And the definition of a dribble is pushing the ball to the floor. It says nothing about it having to come back up. In fact, nothing about the definition of a dribble even requires that they touch it again. |
... And No One Is There To Catch It ...
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Kind of like that tree falls in a forest question. |
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Regardless. Players make passes all the time to a spot where there is no teammate; often in anticipation that a teammate will retrieve the ball. If the airborne player drops the ball, 99% of the time he's going to land and stand there waiting for a teammate to retrieve the ball. That's a pass, even if the teammate takes a few seconds to get there. |
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If you're going to let him get away with this, you could just as easily say it was still a try. |
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