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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 07:54am
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does it have to be both feet? for off ball players. is there any exception? like can the defender step out of bounds for a second to avoid traffic just to get to his guy?
That's a violation on the defense.

In NCAA (at least W, but I think also M), it's a violation if the offense does so and is the first (next) to touch the ball after coming inbounds.

As a practical matter, that's often how it gets called at the FED level (and before that there's often discussion with the players and / or coach to keep the players inbounds on the baseline screens -- which is where it happens most often).

The T is for plays like running OOB, behind the bench and then re-entering at the other end of the court.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:59pm
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In NCAA (at least W, but I think also M), it's a violation if the offense does so and is the first (next) to touch the ball after coming inbounds.

This is a violation in NCAA-M as well. In fact, John Adams has included a few plays from last season on his start of the year video and pointed out that this needs to be seen and called.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:11pm
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FED level ... there's often discussion with the players and / or coach to keep the players inbounds on the baseline screens -- which is where it happens most often ...
Bingo. That's where this situation happens the most. If I'm the lead, and the players are almost running into me, then I'm considering calling this violation.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:13pm
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Bingo. That's where this situation happens the most. If I'm the lead, and the players are almost running into me, then I'm considering calling this violation.

Just trip the kid and then tell them if they stayed on the court where they belong they would not have fallen on their face
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Old Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:11am
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does it have to be both feet? for off ball players. is there any exception? like can the defender step out of bounds for a second to avoid traffic just to get to his guy?

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That's a violation on the defense.
What's the penalty for a violation on the defense in this situation?
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Old Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:11am
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does it have to be both feet? for off ball players. is there any exception? like can the defender step out of bounds for a second to avoid traffic just to get to his guy?



What's the penalty for a violation on the defense in this situation?
At minimum just a violation, at maximum a TF I think.
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Old Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:46am
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does it have to be both feet? for off ball players. is there any exception? like can the defender step out of bounds for a second to avoid traffic just to get to his guy?



What's the penalty for a violation on the defense in this situation?
Give the ball back to the offense. Not much of a penalty, so you don't see it called much -- but if the defense gets around a screen and disrupts the ball ...
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Old Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:33pm
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Give the ball back to the offense. Not much of a penalty, so you don't see it called much -- but if the defense gets around a screen and disrupts the ball ...
That's what I was thinking. Not much of a penalty. so if your choices are leave a guy wide open cuz u got screened pretty good on the baseline, or go around the screen out-of-bounds, it's an easy decision. But, I like the no-call if it gives an advantage not intended by the rules.
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