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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 10:22pm
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Leaving the court--Tech Foul?

Team A, 44....Team B, 40....2 minutes in the game..Sophomore Girls...Team A substitutes two players. I watch one head to the bench, while the other left at half court division line into the stands to retrieve something from Dad, and then down to the floor and around to the baseline, and then to the bench. Tech? Teaching moment? No call? I let it go, and nobody cared, but I don't think that is the right call....I let it go because of the quality of play and the "learning curve" nature of the game.....Did I goof?
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 10:53pm
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 10:57pm
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Once the players leave the confines of the court, they are considered bench personnel. So far as I know, there are no restrictions on bench personnel movement other that standing up while play is on the court. I would probably ask the coach to let her know the correct substitution procedures and to exit the court towards the bench so that there is not a "delay of game" warning posted to her team. A"T" is unwarrented as this was not a disruption to the game by bench personnel.

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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 11:07pm
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Once the players leave the confines of the court, they are considered bench personnel. So far as I know, there are no restrictions on bench personnel movement other that standing up while play is on the court. I would probably ask the coach to let her know the correct substitution procedures and to exit the court towards the bench so that there is not a "delay of game" warning posted to her team. A"T" is unwarrented as this was not a disruption to the game by bench personnel.

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How you gonna justify that one, partner?

My two bits: There's nothing to do here. Let it go, the only rule broken is that a member of the bench left the bench to get something. Yeah, it's technically a violation, but it's frankly an example of OOO to call this.
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Old Tue Nov 25, 2008, 11:25pm
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How you gonna justify that one, partner?

My two bits: There's nothing to do here. Let it go, the only rule broken is that a member of the bench left the bench to get something. Yeah, it's technically a violation, but it's frankly an example of OOO to call this.
Thanks, that's how I felt....I feel better and at peace.....
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I never let players go up into the stands unless they bring me back some popcorn. Of course, Diebler sells it to them.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 12:37am
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Rule Of Common Sense ...

10-1-4 Team Technical: Team members shall not fail to occupy the team member's bench to which it is assigned.

Just because it's a rule, doesn't mean you have to call it in this situation.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 12:40am
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10-1-4 Team Technical: Team members shall not fail to occupy the team member's bench to which it is assigned.

Just because it's a rule, doesn't mean you have to call it in this situation.
Well, she came right back to the bench....25 seconds delay is all....just via the stands and her father, and not straight to the bench....I think it was a "no-call," as others have said.....and I believe you're right...just because it's there, doesn't mean it has to be called...at least in this one....THANKS....
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 08:14am
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While I agree that in this case, a word to the coach is the most we should consider, we should also remember that 3 or 4 years ago, this exact situation was a POE for the NFHS. Team members are required to be on the bench, not in the stands. In this case, since she came back fairly quickly, I have nothing. But if a team member goes to sit with friends or something similar, this is not allowed.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 09:44am
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While I agree that in this case, a word to the coach is the most we should consider, we should also remember that 3 or 4 years ago, this exact situation was a POE for the NFHS. Team members are required to be on the bench, not in the stands. In this case, since she came back fairly quickly, I have nothing. But if a team member goes to sit with friends or something similar, this is not allowed.
good point...well taken.....
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Team A, 44....Team B, 40....2 minutes in the game..Sophomore Girls...Team A substitutes two players. I watch one head to the bench, while the other left at half court division line into the stands to retrieve something from Dad, and then down to the floor and around to the baseline, and then to the bench. Tech? Teaching moment? No call? I let it go, and nobody cared, but I don't think that is the right call....I let it go because of the quality of play and the "learning curve" nature of the game.....Did I goof?
No call but good teaching moment, Dad could have just as easily brought the *insert item here* down.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:04am
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I agree with everyone else. I'm sure I would have been concentrating on the game and would not have seen a player leave, even if I saw it.
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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 10:56am
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Two questions. What age level was this and what did she go to get. It might have been an inhaler or something like that. I've got this one filed under the I'm not gonna see this category.
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Two questions. What age level was this and what did she go to get. It might have been an inhaler or something like that. I've got this one filed under the I'm not gonna see this category.
Sophomore Girls....I think she retrieved a warm-up jacket...could have been a health issue....And the path from the bucket to the bench was right past me...I couldn't miss her absence....No way not to notice.....but, anyway, I decided to ignore it due to the level of play, and the "learning curve," and the fact that she came right back. I think all of these posts support that view...An inhaler definitely is a no-call....Thanks
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