Jump ball-Held Ball (Video)

[JRutledge]

Peace

Wow! Rejump.

[dsavitzky]

Hey, all. First time posting. I just graduated from USC, and I'm getting certified to officiate high school games for the first time with the CBOA in October. Just thought I'd start participating, as this forum has proven to be a gold mine for someone like me looking to improve and get off on the right foot.

Anyway, I think the right call here is probably that the AP procedure was not yet established and this should be a rejump, but I think you could make the argument that Red had control of the ball before the held ball (the Red player might get both hands on the ball before or at the same time that White gets one hand on the ball), and thus it should be an AP throw-in for White.

[Raymond]

I'm going with a re-jump.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by dsavitzky

Hey, all. First time posting. I just graduated from USC, and I'm getting certified to officiate high school games for the first time with the CBOA in October. Just thought I'd start participating, as this forum has proven to be a gold mine for someone like me looking to improve and get off on the right foot.

Anyway, I think the right call here is probably that the AP procedure was not yet established and this should be a rejump, but I think you could make the argument that Red had control of the ball before the held ball (the Red player might get both hands on the ball before or at the same time that White gets one hand on the ball), and thus it should be an AP throw-in for White.

If red had it first, it was by such a slim margin that you can't even tell for sure on video. Go with the a re-jump.

Now, here's the question for you since you're just getting started.

Who jumps?

[BEAREF]

If this happened in my game it would be a re-jump between Red #15 and White #30.

In my judgement there was no control prior to the held ball.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

If this happened in my game it would be a re-jump between Red #15 and White #30. In my judgement there was no control prior to the held ball.

Correct assessment of the proper ruling!

Just one side note rant...
I truly detest hearing that phrase "in my game...". That phrase I've too often heard around our area to egocentrically justify calling/no-calling something contrary to clearly established rule, procedure or protocol. As if "my game" carries some exceptional weight that out trumps what you "in your game" -- "if you dare be so stupid as to disagree with me and my disregard for an obvious rule".

"In my game, we don't call 'Carrying the Ball'". "In my game, we don't give charges when the collision occurs under the basket." "In my game, we don't call three seconds." "In my game we don't care what kind of accessories they're wearing." Blah, blah, blah.

However, "your game" would be marked by a correct application of 7-3-2 in the above sitch. As infrequently as it occurs, it is something to pregame so that when it happens the crew gets it right in "your game." Excellent analysis!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

If red had it first, it was by such a slim margin that you can't even tell for sure on video. Go with the a re-jump.

Now, here's the question for you since you're just getting started.

Who jumps?

Damn. That's what I was going to ask. Hint: It might depend on the rules code.

[dsavitzky]

Originally Posted by Adam

If red had it first, it was by such a slim margin that you can't even tell for sure on video. Go with the a re-jump.

Now, here's the question for you since you're just getting started.

Who jumps?

The rejump's between the two players involved in the held ball(didn't bother to watch the video again to see their numbers).

[referee99]

Can I imagine a scenario where I would grant a time out request to the red player? Yes.
Things occur quickly on the play, but red grabs the ball and then white ties him up.