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Old Fri Sep 06, 2013, 01:57pm
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Forgive me I am a little bit in football mode now when it comes to rules differences. But what rules difference applies here that is difference between NF and NCAA? Sorry I would look it up but I am preparing my football pre-game for tonight's game.

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NCAA: if there's a held ball before the arrow is established, the resulting jump ball is between any two players. NF, it would be between the two players involved in the held ball.
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Old Fri Sep 06, 2013, 02:03pm
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NCAA: if there's a held ball before the arrow is established, the resulting jump ball is between any two players. NF, it would be between the two players involved in the held ball.
That is right. And for the record it would not have been hard to remember the two players. Those two were key in that game and they would have been hard to forget in this situation. Then again I work college football and rarely do I have an issue getting rules like that straight, especially in basketball. The rules differences are very minor. Football on the other hand.....

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Old Fri Sep 06, 2013, 04:46pm
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Technically speaking, I believe the video showed that red had the ball first, even if it was for just a moment, and Jeff was correct in making the call he made. However, I would not be surprised and I wouldn't consider it an incorrect call if any official had come up with a held ball given what was visible in the video.
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Old Sat Sep 07, 2013, 07:05pm
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I'm giving the ball to white and the arrow to red.
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I'm more than ok with assigning first possession to red. Which means white gets the throw-in, and red the subsequent arrow.
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I'm giving the ball to white and the arrow to red.
If you're giving the ball to white because you decided that red had possession, the you set the arrow to white and change it when the AP throw-in is completed. Otherwise you will have the arrow pointing the wrong way if, for example, there is a foul before the throw-in. And you call both coaches over and explain the whole thing to them and the table so everyone understands...
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Old Mon Sep 09, 2013, 09:54pm
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If you're giving the ball to white because you decided that red had possession, the you set the arrow to white and change it when the AP throw-in is completed. Otherwise you will have the arrow pointing the wrong way if, for example, there is a foul before the throw-in. And you call both coaches over and explain the whole thing to them and the table so everyone understands...
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