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Old Wed Sep 04, 2013, 08:50am
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What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?

Since usually opposing coaches wouldn't just agree it prior walking into the court, people just walk in as an act of being "mutual".
How many games have you watched where this actually happens?
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How many games have you watched where this actually happens?
Never had it. Have never seen it. Must be a regional thing.
Perhaps kinda like the problem with intentional fouls to stop the clock late in the game. Must be a problem somewhere since it's an NFHS POE again this year. But, and I'm quite grateful for this, rampant outbreaks of this apparent red-letter problem don't happen here that I've detected.
I guess I should be happy I live here.
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Old Wed Sep 04, 2013, 09:21am
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Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

In that case the game would be considered still ongoing so you'll have to call technicals on teams that went into the court, even if both team does it, or you'll just gonna ignore the player's action and treat it as irrelevant and end the game?


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Old Wed Sep 04, 2013, 09:32am
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Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.
when they toss the ball into the air, they do it such that time will expire before the ball comes down. Most of the time, both teams have been standing around for a few seconds before this, and the game has been conceded.

It doesn't happen in a 1 point game with 15 seconds left.
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Old Wed Sep 04, 2013, 04:58pm
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When they toss the ball into the air, they do it such that time will expire before the ball comes down. It doesn't happen in a 1 point game with 15 seconds left.
How about a tied game with eleven seconds left? Sometimes weird stuff happens. After all, they're only kids.

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In that video, the player heaved the ball, not just to heave it expecting time to expire and just walk off the court, but as a try. Sure, it was a bad try and he mistakenly thought there was less time but it was not at all the same as what this thread is discussion (a celebratory throw)/
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Apples and Rutabagas, Billy.
Of course I know that. Mr. potato's post just brought this play to mind.
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Of course I know that. Mr. potato's post just brought this play to mind gave me an excuse to show an unrelated video.
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Old Wed Sep 04, 2013, 10:18pm
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What if a team throws the ball into the air, bench people starts running in, the opposing team goes & steal the ball and goes for the basket, how would you call it?
That depends. If the shot was released before the horn, I would count the basket. Otherwise, wave it off and head to the showers

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Not that it happened but the guy tossed the ball into the air infront of the opponent before everyone steps in, so i'm guess if the opponent really hated losing a championship he'd just grab the ball and do something with it.

In that case the game would be considered still ongoing so you'll have to call technicals on teams that went into the court, even if both team does it, or you'll just gonna ignore the player's action and treat it as irrelevant and end the game?
Tell you what. You go ahead and call those technical fouls. Maybe you can sell your uniforms on eBay. 'Cause you damn sure won't be working again.

My advice to you: stop trying to come up with these ridiculous situations where you would make a call no other official would ever make and start reading and learning from the veteran officials on this forum. You'll be much better off. Good luck to you!
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I wonder what potato would call in this situation.

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It's actually relevant to my question. But why did the clock stopped after White team's 3 pointer? Is this NBA where the time stops after each basket when time is low? Or was there a foul by the white team bench coming into the court and the referee merely gave it a normal foul instead of a technical so Black still has time to start the game, if that is so shouldn't the referee tell the benches to get out of the court?

But i believe most folks here would just ignore it and end the game after White scored making Black's buzzer beater irrelevant.

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It's actually relevant to my question. But why did the clock stopped after White team's 3 pointer? Is this NBA where the time stops after each basket when time is low? Or was there a foul by the white team bench coming into the court and the referee merely gave it a normal foul instead of a technical so Black still has time to start the game, if that is so shouldn't the referee tell the benches to get out of the court?

But i believe most folks here would just ignore it and end the game after White scored making Black's buzzer beater irrelevant.
If that's what you believe, you're really not paying attention.
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It's actually relevant to my question. But why did the clock stopped after White team's 3 pointer? Is this NBA where the time stops after each basket when time is low? Or was there a foul by the white team bench coming into the court and the referee merely gave it a normal foul instead of a technical so Black still has time to start the game, if that is so shouldn't the referee tell the benches to get out of the court?

But i believe most folks here would just ignore it and end the game after White scored making Black's buzzer beater irrelevant.
You're not aware of which rule sets stop the clock the after made baskets and when that is in effect?

So all your questions are just for pickup games?
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It's actually relevant to my question. But why did the clock stopped after White team's 3 pointer? Is this NBA where the time stops after each basket when time is low? Or was there a foul by the white team bench coming into the court and the referee merely gave it a normal foul instead of a technical so Black still has time to start the game, if that is so shouldn't the referee tell the benches to get out of the court?

But i believe most folks here would just ignore it and end the game after White scored making Black's buzzer beater irrelevant.
Under FIBA (that's the international rule set) rules, the clock stops after a made basket when under two minutes in the 4th quarter or any overtime periods. Similar to the NBA rule (except they stop the clock on a made basket when under a minute in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarters and final two minutes of the 4th and any OT), and NCAA rule (final minute of the 2nd half and/or OT).

As to your second point, how did you come to that conclusion? Everything that's been discussed so far as come on the premise, the very one you gave us, that it was the end of a game where the winner/loser is not in doubt. Contrast that with the video where a buzzer beater wins the game for a team. Two different scenarios.
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