Celebration before Game end

[potato]

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

Originally Posted by potato

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

I anticipate some contention on this subject. If this happens to me during an offseason, AAU, or men's league game I would probably not penalize it. I don't do this, but some of my partners have blown the whistle and declared the game over, especially when players are leaving the court.

During any official game, penalize accordingly. Remember, you need to officiate just as good in the final minutes as in the opening minutes. The score or lead should not matter.

[asdf]

and I suppose you whack a coach for being 1/4" outside the coaching box.

after all, a rule is a rule......

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by potato

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits ...

If it's less than ten seconds, and if everyone is on the same "sportsmanship page", then I'm staying out there until the buzzer sounds, and unless the ball goes out of bounds, or, for some odd reason, there is some type of foul, I'm probably going to ignore a few violations (carry, three seconds, closely guarded, etc.).

[Adam]

No way I would touch this.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

There is also a rule that the game can be shortened with the mutual agreement of the coaches and referee (maybe not a rule in NBA or FIBA).

That's what you see happening.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by potato

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

There's the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. If it's apparent everyone is on the same page, leave it alone. Making a call in that spot only draws (very unwanted) attention to yourself.

If there are more than ten seconds remaining, the ball is in the backcourt and I'm near the person who has it I will tell them - quietly - remember to get into frontcourt. Apart from that, I'll let life play out and stay on the court until the buzzer sounds.

Trouble has a way of finding us in the best of situations. Why go looking for it?

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There is also a rule that the game can be shortened with the mutual agreement of the coaches and referee (maybe not a rule in NBA or FIBA).

That's what you see happening.

Exactly...

[Mark Padgett]

Here's a scenario for you. Shot clock game. Team A (with a big lead) has the ball in front court with 10 seconds to go but only 7 seconds on the shot clock. Team start coming on the court and then the shot clock goes off and the game clock stops with 3 seconds to go. Would you just tell the scorekeeper to run off the 3 seconds or would you let everyone go to the locker room with 3 seconds still to go in the game?

[asdf]

Ball Game !!

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Here's a scenario for you. Shot clock game. Team A (with a big lead) has the ball in front court with 10 seconds to go but only 7 seconds on the shot clock. Team start coming on the court and then the shot clock goes off and the game clock stops with 3 seconds to go. Would you just tell the scorekeeper to run off the 3 seconds or would you let everyone go to the locker room with 3 seconds still to go in the game?

This is going to depend on what level of play you're calling. In an NBA game? You're going to play it out...and even correct the game clock if needed...and if you don't, even in a blowout, you very well could get reprimanded for not doing so (if the game clock should be 3.2 but it shows 3.1, you better put those .1 seconds back). In a college game, I also doubt you'd be able to pull this off. In a high school game that uses a shot clock? You could probably get away with doing this, though I probably wouldn't and make them play it out.

[rockchalk jhawk]

Originally Posted by potato

I notice when the lead is too much, players tend to give up the last 10 seconds and start shaking each other's hand, and when it's the finals coaches & bench players etc will start walking into the court before the buzzer hits, yet no calls were called for such violations. I know it bears no meaning to the game but rules are rules, aren't such action considered serious and both teams should be called for technical fouls?

If it is your style of officiating to try to address situations such as this in the manner you suggested, you're going to struggle to be successful. Having a feel for the game is just as important (if not more so) as knowing how to administer the game.

[JRutledge]

When the teams clearly have end the game by a lack of competition with literally seconds left, let them end the game. And I have yet to have a single supervisor tell us to do anything different.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by APG

This is going to depend on what level of play you're calling. In an NBA game? You're going to play it out...and even correct the game clock if needed...and if you don't, even in a blowout, you very well could get reprimanded for not doing so (if the game clock should be 3.2 but it shows 3.1, you better put those .1 seconds back). In a college game, I also doubt you'd be able to pull this off. In a high school game that uses a shot clock? You could probably get away with doing this, though I probably wouldn't and make them play it out.

Much of this has to do with the betting line.

And in Mark's play (10 seconds on game clock; 7 on shot clock), I'm going to quietly tell the team that they need to shoot -- similar to the BC situation someone posted earlier.

In a practical matter, though, Mark's play won't happen at the college level or above.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And in Mark's play (10 seconds on game clock; 7 on shot clock), I'm going to quietly tell the team that they need to shoot -- similar to the BC situation someone posted earlier.

I'm the someone ...and you got that right! Highly doubtful a college kid won't shoot it on time anyway to try to get the points but you remind them or their coach (quietly) "remember to shoot the ball."