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Camron Rust: Wordsmith ...
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Very few people understand that they can go as far back as they want
Boys HS summer league game last weekend....player asks me to back the defender up to give him three feet. I told him no, but that he can back up as far as he would like. He points to a spot three feet behind him and asks if that is ok. I told him yes and he could back up all the way to the wall if he would like. The idea seemed foreign to him.
I think very few players understand this rule. Otherwise, they would back up more frequently to have a clear passing lane. |
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What you are debating is not about a good example or bad example. It is a personal pet peeve. That is fine, but not everyone agrees with personal pet peeves no matter how logical you might think they are.
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Almost all players will stand in their little shoulder width area on designated spot throwins. A large number of players probably don't know that the movement limits on a designated spot thrownin are actually more liberal than they believe. Seldom have I observed players taking the legal step to the left, or to the right, of the designated area, to avoid defensive pressure. I believe that the reason for this is that that have been told by parents, coaches, and officials, over the years, that during a throwin, other than a run the endline throwin, they most "not move", that, "Don't move" means, literally, that they must keep their feet in their little shoulder width area. We can even go back one generation, that those parents, as players, and those coaches, as players, heard the same, "Don't move", advice from some of those that officiated their games back in the day. Quote:
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In addition, some, not a lot, but some, players, coaches, and fans, may believe that the inbounder in a designated spot throwin situation, must maintain some type of pivot foot within that little shoulder width area. I believe that the reason for this is that they have been told that by parents, coaches, and maybe some really ignorant officials, over the years, who have probably, in turn, been influenced by officials, over the years, saying, "Don't move". After all, "Don't move", is what the coach of a second grader says to his player who has picked up his dribble and now must decide what to do next. After hearing, "Don't move", from parents, coaches, and officials, over several years, in different contexts, players will just decide to not move, literally, when advised to do so by an official, even when, by rule, they are allowed some movement to gain a legal advantage. Proof: Quote:
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Y'all ...
Maybe it was your Virginian accent. I've been to Richmond, and you guys do talk funny.
Note: There really is such a thing as "Southern hospitality". I've never met so many polite, well mannered, and pleasant people, than on my weekend in Richmond. I found the same thing to be true on my vacation in North Carolina. You guys must think that Northeasterners, specifically New Englanders, are impolite oafs, when you travel north?
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I'm Not The King Of The World ...
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Please note that it wasn't my intent to publish this list on the Forum with the intent of "training" all Forum members. I was just asking for suggestions to add to the list for my local newsletter, that will only be read by officials in my little corner of Connecticut. Also note that the working title of my list is, "Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game", not, "Things Officials Must Never Be Saying In A Game". The, "Should", and the, "Probably", leave a lot of wiggle room.
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"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) I was in prison and you came to visit me. (Matthew 25:36) Last edited by BillyMac; Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 10:12am. |
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A) Mark Sr. would remember that "way back in the day," the thrower couldn't legally move, and for some time, the signal for the violation was travelling. The influence of fathers who've played under that rule has lessened, and is now infrequently coming from grandfathers. . .
B) I consistently have partners who give me a hard time because I insist that players may not participate in warm-ups while wearing jewelry. My response is usually that my partners know I do a lot of training and mentoring, and I dare not deteriorate my credibility by not doing things "by the Book," and that I'm protecting us, our Officials Assn. and the entire school system by folloowing the liability guidelines. Last season, I had to tell a player to remove the earphones and the misic player from her trunks! - much to the surprize of my partner. . .
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There's A Good Reason Why They Call It The Boob Tube ...
Certainly another source of many of the misperceptions, misunderstandings, and myths regarding basketball rules. I have had high school coaches who, near the end of the game, want a front court sideline throwin after they called time out with a player out of bounds on the backcourt endline.
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"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) I was in prison and you came to visit me. (Matthew 25:36) Last edited by BillyMac; Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 10:20am. |
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Please Do Not Put Words In My Mouth ...
No. I do not think that this is a major issue.
Now, calling the endline the baseline, that's a major issue that I will be starting a new thread on very soon. Stay tuned.
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Old Dirt, Very Old Dirt ...
I'm as old as dirt, officiating thirty-two years, and I don't remember that mechanic.
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Nevadaref, Where Are You ...
Agree, however, how about a citation please. Also, I believe that the NFHS came out with an interpretation regarding this about fifteen years ago. I can't locate it. Anybody got that interpretation? Nevaderef?
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