[NFHS] Violation on free throw shooter?

[BigBaldGuy]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

In a 2 or 3pt game on a last second shot when the shooter is close to the line you are going to be more concerned about rebounds? Everyone in the gym is looking at the location of the shooter, not the rebounders, except you.

Hey partner, did you have a 2 or a 3? BBG: Don't know, I had rebounders

Totally different play...apples and oranges.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy

Totally different play...apples and oranges.

Not really. On a FT, there is nothing else going on until the ball hits something. No reason to be watching the players on the lane so closely you can't see the position of the shooter's feet with regard to the line.

[BigBaldGuy]

Originally Posted by Adam

Not really. On a FT, there is nothing else going on until the ball hits something. No reason to be watching the players on the lane so closely you can't see the position of the shooter's feet with regard to the line.

The Center is responsible for the opposite side of the lane for violations correct? Nothing to look at? In an average year how many free violations do you have (not including end of game when they are trying to miss)...compared to how many violations/fouls by players in marked lane spaces?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigBaldGuy

The Center is responsible for the opposite side of the lane for violations correct? Nothing to look at? In an average year how many free violations do you have (not including end of game when they are trying to miss)...compared to how many violations/fouls by players in marked lane spaces?

A total of four players, all within a very short angle of view. There isn't any reason to be watching any of them so closely you can't see the other three. I'm not saying whether you should call the toe on the line, but there really is no reason to say you can't see it.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Adam

A total of four players, all within a very short angle of view. There isn't any reason to be watching any of them so closely you can't see the other three. I'm not saying whether you should call the toe on the line, but there really is no reason to say you can't see it.

By the book the C (in 3) and the T (in 2) is responsible for just three players on FTs - the shooter and the top two lane spaces on the opposite side. Even more reason to be able to see things.

[upprdeck]

we have a player whose routine is to accept the ball and for some reason. he kicks one foot to multiple times on on the line like hs is trying to dry the floor, much like a batter does on his back foot in the dirt in baseball.. he often puts his foot 2-3 inches over the line and it has never been called in the two years i have watched him play.. of course i have seen players with their feet 4-5 inches over the line shoot shots with no call as well.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

we have a player whose routine is to accept the ball and for some reason. he kicks one foot to multiple times on on the line like hs is trying to dry the floor, much like a batter does on his back foot in the dirt in baseball.. he often puts his foot 2-3 inches over the line and it has never been called in the two years i have watched him play.. of course i have seen players with their feet 4-5 inches over the line shoot shots with no call as well.

I don't call this, unless he doesn't pull it back before he shoots. By rule it's a violation, but I'm not going to be the only one calling it.

On the last one, I'm not sure what you're describing.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

we have a player whose routine is to accept the ball and for some reason. he kicks one foot to multiple times on on the line like hs is trying to dry the floor, much like a batter does on his back foot in the dirt in baseball.. he often puts his foot 2-3 inches over the line and it has never been called in the two years i have watched him play.. of course i have seen players with their feet 4-5 inches over the line shoot shots with no call as well.

That's just disappointing from an officiating standpoint.
Want to bet that this player knocks off this nonsense after the first time that he gets penalized for it? If people would just officiate the game according to the rules a great deal of these silly situations would disappear.

As for your observation of players shooting 4-5 inches over the line without a violation being called, I can only say WOW!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by upprdeck

we have a player whose routine is to accept the ball and for some reason. he kicks one foot to multiple times on on the line like hs is trying to dry the floor, much like a batter does on his back foot in the dirt in baseball.. he often puts his foot 2-3 inches over the line and it has never been called in the two years i have watched him play.. of course i have seen players with their feet 4-5 inches over the line shoot shots with no call as well.

Who is "we" and what level of play is this?