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Old Sat Mar 09, 2013, 10:20pm
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FIBA question

sorry, can't find this online..if anyone happens to know

Inbounds pass. Ball hits the backboard or rim first. Is that a violation?
in the US it is right? I can't find info about it for FIBA.
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Old Sat Mar 09, 2013, 10:24pm
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Its' not a violation in any USA rule set.
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Old Sat Mar 09, 2013, 11:49pm
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sorry, can't find this online..if anyone happens to know

Inbounds pass. Ball hits the backboard or rim first. Is that a violation?
in the US it is right? I can't find info about it for FIBA.
Only a violation if the ball gets wedged or stuck on the rim.
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Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:01am
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Only a violation if the ball gets wedged or stuck on the rim.
Not a violation in the NBA...if a ball comes to rest on the flange or gets wedged, it's a jump ball at center court between any two jumpers on the floor at the time either event occurred.
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Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:31am
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On inbound, if ball hits backboard, it is a violation. If it hits the rim, it is legal.
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Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:47am
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In FIBA, the only thing illegal on the throw-in is for the ball to be thrown directly into the basket.

17.3.1 The player taking the throw-in shall not:

• Take more than five (5) seconds to release the ball.

• Step into the playing court while having the ball in his hand(s).

• Cause the ball to touch out-of-bounds, after it has been released on the throw-in.

• Touch the ball on the playing court before it has touched another player.

• Cause the ball to enter the basket directly.

• Move from the designated throw-in place behind the boundary line, other than from his team’s endline after a successful field goal or a successful last free throw, laterally in one (1) or in both directions, exceeding a total distance of one (1) m before releasing the ball. He is, however, permitted to move directly back-wards from the boundary line as far as circumstances allow.
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Old Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:14am
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On inbound, if ball hits backboard, it is a violation. If it hits the rim, it is legal.
Not true. See Canuckrefguy post.
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Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:27am
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Where? Show me the rule. Have refereed to FIBA rules for over 30 years, I am quite sure of my reply.
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Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:40am
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Where? Show me the rule. Have refereed to FIBA rules for over 30 years, I am quite sure of my reply.
It's you that's made the assertion...therefore, shouldn't you provide the rule proving it true? It seems the others have provided the rule on how the thrower can violate...and it doesn't mention a violation for simply throwing the ball and causing it to hit the backboard first. Perhaps your claim was true at some point before a rule change?
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Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:52am
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To clarify
In FIBA-- a violation if the ball gets wedged-- but not if it hits the backboard or clangs off the rim.

I thought those were violations in the US for high school? My understanding was that a inbounds play where the pass first hits the rim or backboard it is a violation.
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Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:58am
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To clarify
In FIBA-- a violation if the ball gets wedged-- but not if it hits the backboard or clangs off the rim.

I thought those were violations in the US for high school? My understanding was that a inbounds play where the pass first hits the rim or backboard it is a violation.
It is a violation for the thrower to cause the ball to get wedged...it's not a violation for the thrower to cause the ball to hit the backboard or rim.
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Old Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:12am
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To clarify
In FIBA-- a violation if the ball gets wedged
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It is a violation for the thrower to cause the ball to get wedged...
Wrong. In FIBA, any time the ball gets wedged - including a throw-in - it is an AP situation.

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it's not a violation for the thrower to cause the ball to hit the backboard or rim.
Correct. If a throw-in hits the rim, play continues; however, the 24-second clock is NOT reset.

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Where? Show me the rule. Have refereed to FIBA rules for over 30 years, I am quite sure of my reply.
I quoted the EXACT portion of the rulebook above. Read much?

Been doing FIBA for over 30 years, eh? When's the last time you read the rulebook or the casebook? Pages 9 and 10 of the FIBA Interpretations Manual cover throw-in plays.

http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/...ations2012.pdf

I bet you're still disallowing substitutions by the defensive team in the frontcourt as well, eh? How about dribblers who are straddling the centre line? Still calling them for over-and-back? I'll bet you get really funny looks when you award "3 to make 2".
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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:00pm
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A throw-in that hits a basket support or (in a throw-in from the baseline) the back of the back board is also a violation!
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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:30pm
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A throw-in that hits a basket support or (in a throw-in from the baseline) the back of the back board is also a violation!
Not that it makes much difference, but isn't that just out of bounds?
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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:02pm
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Not that it makes much difference, but isn't that just out of bounds?
Causing the ball to go OOB is a violation.
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