Weird Stuff

[bainsey]

A "weird stuff you've seen" thread is showing up on my state's fanboy site. Here are some highlights:

*"It is technically by rule a violation to dribble the ball over the foul line on a foul shot. But it is never called."

(I believe this is false. I believe it's only a violation when a shooter's foot breaks the plane. Confirm/reject?)

*"JV girls game this year an official called disconcertion during a free throw on the home crowd because they were hollering during the free throw. This happened on 2 successive shots before anyone knew what was going on and the official pointed at the crowd. Everyone involved initially thought it was just a lane violation."

(Never have I heard of this.)

*"During a travel team game just today the opposing coach hollered for a time-out after my free throw shooter already had the ball and was into his routine. Shooter missed, violation was called and he received another shot as a result. First time I have ever saw that one happen in a game."

(I can see disconcertion here, though not sure whether I would call it. Anyone?)

*"I saw a ref in a middle school game call a double dribble on a free throw shooter! Beat that!"

(I can't.)

[APG]

1st situation: There's no violation here

2nd: Doesn't shock me that an official would try to pull that stunt in a JV game

3rd: No problem with this being penalized.

4th: Middle school games mean middle school refs a lot of the time...that's all that needs to be said here.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by APG

1st situation: There's no violation here

2nd: Doesn't shock me that an official would try to pull that stunt in a JV game

3rd: No problem with this being penalized.

4th: Middle school games mean middle school refs a lot of the time...that's all that needs to be said here.

2nd: It does me, but JV takes a little more experience here, normally.

[bainsey]

One more...

*"(A-1) player goes up for a rebound, tips the ball in, whistle blows... Good basket, foul called on the player who got the tip-in ... and free throws on the other end because both teams were at double-bonus."

Hmm... assuming the foul took place before the ball went in, shouldn't this be a PC? Isn't a tip the same thing as a release?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

One more...

*"(A-1) player goes up for a rebound, tips the ball in, whistle blows... Good basket, foul called on the player who got the tip-in ... and free throws on the other end because both teams were at double-bonus."

Hmm... assuming the foul took place before the ball went in, shouldn't this be a PC? Isn't a tip the same thing as a release?

Correct enforcement for NCAA Men, if the foul happens after the ball is in flight.
For NCAA Women or NFHS this is a PC foul and no goal, even if the foul occurs after the ball has passed through the basket. See the exception for a dead-ball foul by an airborne shooter.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bainsey

One more...

*"(A-1) player goes up for a rebound, tips the ball in, whistle blows... Good basket, foul called on the player who got the tip-in ... and free throws on the other end because both teams were at double-bonus."

Hmm... assuming the foul took place before the ball went in, shouldn't this be a PC? Isn't a tip the same thing as a release?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Correct enforcement for NCAA Men, if the foul happens after the ball is in flight.
For NCAA Women or NFHS this is a PC foul and no goal, even if the foul occurs after the ball has passed through the basket. See the exception for a dead-ball foul by an airborne shooter.

Depends on if the tipper was still airborne or had landed. If they land, they're no longer shooting and it can't be a PC or TC foul. In that case, the shot would count and you'd shoot 1+1 on the other end (assuming they're in the bonus).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

A "weird stuff you've seen" thread is showing up on my state's fanboy site. Here are some highlights:

*"I saw a ref in a middle school game call a double dribble on a free throw shooter! Beat that!"

(I can't.)

NFHS basketball rules fundamentals #5

Neither the dribble nor traveling rule operates during the jump ball, throw-in or free throw.