Odd plays...

[egj13]

A couple of odd plays during District tournaments here...

Play 1: Team A inbounding the ball on their own endline, down 2, 4.3 seconds to go. Team A calls time out, which they have none remaining. Officials issue the T, go to the other end and shoot two which the girl hits both. Then for some reason..I still don't get it...they take the ball back to A's endline, give A possesion , they inbound hit a three and time expires. Luckily B still won by 1.

Play 2:
A1 drives, fouled by B1 team A is in the bonus. A1 shoots the first and misses, B rebounds and starts down the floor and the table hits the buzzer. They tell the officials that B1 has fouled out they just hadn't caught it before the free throw. The officials wipe off everything that happened between the foul and the ensuing possession by B. The girl goes back to the line and hits both free throws.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by egj13

Play 1: Team A inbounding the ball on their own endline, down 2, 4.3 seconds to go. Team A calls time out, which they have none remaining. Officials issue the T, go to the other end and shoot two which the girl hits both. Then for some reason..I still don't get it...they take the ball back to A's endline, give A possesion , they inbound hit a three and time expires. Luckily B still won by 1.

Sounds like NCAA enforcement to me but I'm not up enough on those rules to know for sure.

Play 2:
A1 drives, fouled by B1 team A is in the bonus. A1 shoots the first and misses, B inbounds and starts down the floor and the table hits the buzzer. They tell the officials that B1 has fouled out they just hadn't caught it before the free throw. The officials wipe off everything that happened between the foul and the ensuing possession by B. The girl goes back to the line and hits both free throws.

Oops.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Sounds like NCAA enforcement to me but I'm not up enough on those rules to know for sure.

NCAAM rule. NCAAW rules include inbounding the ball at POI to the offended team on an excess TO.

[egj13]

Ahh...I learned something today. The one official that I knew from the game does do NCAAM so possibly he got confused.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by egj13

Ahh...I learned something today. The one official that I knew from the game does do NCAAM so possibly he got confused.

That's just sad.

If one can't keep the NFHS rules straight from those of the NCAA, then one should pick a level and officiate just that instead of screwing up games.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's just sad.

If one can't keep the NFHS rules straight from those of the NCAA, then one should pick a level and officiate just that instead of screwing up games.

Folks forget. It happens. Not to say it's acceptable but it happens.

Last season I worked with a guy in a GV game in NJ, meaning NFHS rules as opposed to the modified NCAAW I'm used to for GV in NYC. The guy wanted to go POI after a T and I had to tell him - twice - that's not the rule. If anything I figured I'd be the one to forget.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by egj13

A couple of odd plays during District tournaments here...

Play 1: Team A inbounding the ball on their own endline, down 2, 4.3 seconds to go. Team A calls time out, which they have none remaining. Officials issue the T, go to the other end and shoot two which the girl hits both. Then for some reason..I still don't get it...they take the ball back to A's endline, give A possesion , they inbound hit a three and time expires. Luckily B still won by 1.

Play 2:
A1 drives, fouled by B1 team A is in the bonus. A1 shoots the first and misses, B inbounds and starts down the floor and the table hits the buzzer. They tell the officials that B1 has fouled out they just hadn't caught it before the free throw. The officials wipe off everything that happened between the foul and the ensuing possession by B. The girl goes back to the line and hits both free throws.

Not sure from your post what was 'wiped out' They did the dreaded 'redo', did they put time back on clock also?

[referee99]

... is when working with officials who also do NCAA for an NFHS game, you may need to help them out in spots like this. Prevent them from making the mistake.

[Adam]

I thought excessive TO was two shots and the ball for all levels.

[johnny d]

Art. 7. A team shall not be granted excessive timeouts without penalty.
PENALTY: Two free throws awarded to the offended team.
(Art. 7) Penalized when discovered before the ball becomes
live. (Men) The ball shall be put back in play at the point of
interruption. (Women) The ball shall be put back in play at the
point of interruption to the offended team.


NCAA rules manual.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Adam

I thought excessive TO was two shots and the ball for all levels.

Originally Posted by johnny d

Art. 7. A team shall not be granted excessive timeouts without penalty.
PENALTY: Two free throws awarded to the offended team.
(Art. 7) Penalized when discovered before the ball becomes
live. (Men) The ball shall be put back in play at the point of
interruption. (Women) The ball shall be put back in play at the
point of interruption to the offended team.


NCAA rules manual.

You learned something yesterday!
BTW the NCAAM rule has changed since the 1993 Chris Webber play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You learned something yesterday!
BTW the NCAAM rule has changed since the 1993 Chris Webber play.

I guess it has.

[letemplay]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You learned something yesterday!
BTW the NCAAM rule has changed since the 1993 Chris Webber play.

Wish NFHS would follow suit on this one.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Not sure from your post what was 'wiped out' They did the dreaded 'redo', did they put time back on clock also?

the dreaded re-do...yep...not sure about the time question because I wasn't present

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by egj13

Play 2:
A1 drives, fouled by B1 team A is in the bonus. A1 shoots the first and misses, B inbounds and starts down the floor and the table hits the buzzer. They tell the officials that B1 has fouled out they just hadn't caught it before the free throw. The officials wipe off everything that happened between the foul and the ensuing possession by B. The girl goes back to the line and hits both free throws.

Why did B inbound after the miss of the front end of a 1 and 1? Just a typo I am assuming.