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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 03:16pm
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Who cares if the NF or the NCAA are on the same page? They are not on the same page with a lot of things and basketball is not like other sports where there are drastic differences.

And I am not seeing anything that says this would not apply under any rules set. A bobble does not end a shot for an airborne shooter.

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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 03:30pm
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Who cares if the NF or the NCAA are on the same page? They are not on the same page with a lot of things and basketball is not like other sports where there are drastic differences.

And I am not seeing anything that says this would not apply under any rules set. A bobble does not end a shot for an airborne shooter.

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I have not seen anything from the NCAA which says the try would end on a bobble.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 03:49pm
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I have not seen anything from the NCAA which says the try would end on a bobble.
I think it could end but it might not. This is going to be a judgement call. I think it really depends on how far away it gets and if is the same general effort to shoot or if it is an entirely new effort.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 03:55pm
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Who cares if the NF or the NCAA are on the same page?
I meant all parties involved in a single game (coaches, players, officials) on the same page.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 04:10pm
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A bobble does not end a shot for an airborne shooter.

A bobble does not end the act of shooting for an airborne shooter.

If the contact was after the bobble he would still get two shots.

4-41-4: The try ends when......it is certain the throw is unsuccessful.


If it doesn't get touched again, the throw in the OP is unsuccessful. And if you say for some reason that this doesn't apply in this case, why would it change if the ball hit the board, or even the rim?
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 04:39pm
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I meant all parties involved in a single game (coaches, players, officials) on the same page.
When does that ever happen?

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A bobble does not end the act of shooting for an airborne shooter.

If the contact was after the bobble he would still get two shots.

4-41-4: The try ends when......it is certain the throw is unsuccessful.


If it doesn't get touched again, the throw in the OP is unsuccessful. And if you say for some reason that this doesn't apply in this case, why would it change if the ball hit the board, or even the rim?
Well most rules have an interpretation from an official body suggesting how rules in unusual situations should be officiated. Now if you have an interpretation that supports your point of view, then so be it. But you don't have one so we could debate this aspect all day, but it is not going to change anything. Call it how you see it, but to me this is part of the shot and would count at both the NCAA or NF levels that I work. I cannot imagine calling it any other way.

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