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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 01:31pm
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When the ball is caught out of the air after the contact, how is it continuous motion?
Are you saying a try ends because the ball is knocked out of his hands?

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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 01:46pm
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Are you saying a try ends because the ball is knocked out of his hands?

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That's what I'm saying.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 01:50pm
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That's what I'm saying.
You have the right to say that, but that is very flawed logic in my mind. If he came back to the floor with the ball or the ball hit something then maybe I would kind of agree with your point. No way a simple bobble on a fouled player is going to end a shot while the player is in the air the entire time.

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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 02:05pm
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You have the right to say that, but that is very flawed logic in my mind. If he came back to the floor with the ball or the ball hit something then maybe I would kind of agree with your point. No way a simple bobble on a fouled player is going to end a shot while the player is in the air the entire time.

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This is not a simple bobble. The ball is clear of his hand six inches. What if it had hit something? That doesn't end the try. But if had it hit the board and then been tapped in by the airborne player that would be the same as this play.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 02:16pm
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This is not a simple bobble. The ball is clear of his hand six inches. What if it had hit something? That doesn't end the try. But if had it hit the board and then been tapped in by the airborne player that would be the same as this play.
You're really stretching things here.

No matter what you say it's not gonna change what is "expected" at many levels and many locales.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 02:25pm
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No matter what you say it's not gonna change what is "expected" at many levels and many locales.


And it seems to be the case that expectations and the rule book are sometimes at right angles to each other. If the NCAA rule and the NFHS rule are the same on this, then this is a good example. If everybody is on the same page, fine, I have no problem with it, but if that's the way they want it, this rule, like others, should be rewritten.


"In the case of a pretty play that the fans like, the official shall ignore whatever is necessary (traveling, end of try, etc.) and count the basket."
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 02:46pm
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"In the case of a pretty play that the fans coaches like, the official shall ignore whatever is necessary (traveling, end of try, etc.) and count the basket."
Wrong target audience. And don't forget who writes the rules. And don't forget who would complain to supervisors and commissioners if they didn't like how officials are handling the play.
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Old Mon Jun 03, 2013, 02:24pm
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This is not a simple bobble. The ball is clear of his hand six inches. What if it had hit something? That doesn't end the try. But if had it hit the board and then been tapped in by the airborne player that would be the same as this play.
So what if the ball was out his hands 4 inches? What about 5 1/2 inches?

And I already did say if it hits something maybe then you can make a case the try has clearly ended, but it would depend on what it hit and who it hit. If it hit a the backboard I can see that being the case. If it hit an opponent that was defending the play, then no.

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