Dayton vs. Wake Forest game 11/24

[Only a fan]

Did anyone see the ending of this game? Dayton down under two minutes and a pushing foul called on a Dayton player driving the left side of the hoop, passes to a teammate and crashes into defender. Official calls foul on passer and Wake goes down to shoot a one and one at the other end.

Team control foul, right? The Dayton coach does not get upset that Wake is shooting but that a foul was called. Fortunately, Dayton hits two clutch 3's down the stretch and wins the game.

Am I missing something that it was a team control foul and they should not have shot the one and one?

[mbyron]

The puzzle would vanish if it was a shot. Are you sure it was a pass?

[Only a fan]

Yes, I am sure it was a pass. He passed it to a teammate across the lane who made the hoop. Initially I was thinking that until I used the DVR and went back to watch the play because I knew that should be the only way Wake would be shooting a one and one.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Only a fan

Yes, I am sure it was a pass. He passed it to a teammate across the lane who made the hoop. Initially I was thinking that until I used the DVR and went back to watch the play because I knew that should be the only way Wake would be shooting a one and one.

Is it possible the crash came after the teammate released the shot?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Is it possible the crash came after the teammate released the shot?

If the officials counted the basket, then we would know that answer. If there was no goal scored, then that explanation is out.

[BayStateRef]

Tough to answer without a video. I found the play-by-play, and it makes so sense. Sure sounds like a team control foul. The foul on Dayton comes at 1:33, when Dayton has the ball.

	Dayton		Wake Forest
1:52	Matt Kavanaugh Defensive Rebound.	71-73
1:43	Josh Parker missed Three Point Jumper.	71-73
1:43	Chris Johnson Offensive Rebound.	71-73
1:33	Foul on Josh Parker	71-73
1:33	Josh Parker Turnover.	71-73
1:33		71-74	Nikita Mescheriakov made Free Throw.
1:33		71-75	Nikita Mescheriakov made Free Throw.
1:25	Paul Williams made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Kevin Dillard.	74-75

[APG]

[twocentsworth]

thanks to the video, we have our answer....Wake Forest should NOT have been shooting FT's.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

thanks to the video, we have our answer....Wake Forest should NOT have been shooting FT's.

Just want to make sure I understand, if he is passing=team control=no shots; but if he was shooting=player control=shots??

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Just want to make sure I understand, if he is passing=team control=no shots; but if he was shooting=player control=shots??

In NCAAM -- a PC fouls does NOT include contact by an airborne shooter (by definition after the try is released).

In NCAAW and FED, a PC foul includes a foul by an airborne shooter, even though there is no player control at that time.